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Definition is a joke. It refers to the ability to set the various UCI parameters to "create " new personalities in the game.

The next version (out next week), also includes the following parameters:

- open lines and diagonals;

- seventh (second) horizontal;

- outposts;

- Weak squares;

- etc.

The next version (out next week), also includes the following parameters:

- open lines and diagonals;

- seventh (second) horizontal;

- outposts;

- Weak squares;

- etc.

Thanks for Information, Are you the author ?Sandrino72 wrote:Definition is a joke. It refers to the ability to set the various UCI parameters to "create " new personalities in the game.

The next version (out next week), also includes the following parameters:

- open lines and diagonals;

- seventh (second) horizontal;

- outposts;

- Weak squares;

- etc.

is there any tests ?darissimus wrote:unbelievable strongest engine

houdini no chanse vs deep saros :cheers:

http://www.chess2u.com/t1575p15-deepsaros-25-beta-hit

deep saros is stronger then houdini for 60 elo in 20 min

deep saros is stronger then houdini for 60 elo in 20 min

darissimus wrote:deep saros is stronger then houdini for 60 elo in 20 min game

this is Echo or what :sm4: , is there any tests ?picasso wrote:http://www.chess2u.com/t1575p15-deepsaros-25-beta-hit

deep saros is stronger then houdini for 60 elo in 20 min

Last edited by Robin on Sun Apr 10, 2011 5:10 pm; edited 1 time in total

@Robin: yes, i'am Roberto Munter, the author. Houdini is the most powerful engine in the world, at present, but in a longer time games, Deep Saros defends itself very well.

The engine has been tested in numerous long-time games on the site PlayChess.com. The official tester, he nik "Mortal_Sin". Another example:

Houdini 1.5a x64 (6 cores): 27.7 plies; 17.386kN/s Intel(R) Core(TM) i7 CPU X 980 @ 3.33GHz 3337MHz, ArmourOfGod-7.1.0.ctg, 1024 MB

[Event "Partita con Elo, 60m + 15s"]

[Site "Gioco con programmi"]

[Date "2011.03.11"]

[Round "?"]

[White "Romanzev, Houdini 1.5a x64"]

[Black "Mortal_Sin, DeepSaros.exe ver.2.3f"]

[Result "0-1"]

[WhiteElo "2631"]

[BlackElo "2546"]

[ECO "B81"]

[EventDate "2011.03.11"]

[Annotator "-0.03;-0.13"]

[PlyCount "156"]

[TimeControl "3600+15"]

1.e4 c5 2.Nf3 d6 3.d4 cxd4 4.Nxd4 Nf6 5.Nc3 a6 6.h3 e6 7.g4 h6 8.Bg2 Be7 9.Be3 Nc6 10.f4 Nd7 11.Nxc6 bxc6 12.Qd2 Rb8 13.O-O-O d5 14.Na4 O-O 15.b3 Bb4 16.c3 Ba3+ 17.Kb1 Qa5 18.Ka1 Nc5 19.Nxc5 Bxc5 20.Bxc5 Qxc5 21.h4 a5 22.g5 h5 23.Rhe1 Qa3 24.Qb2 Qd6 25.Qd2 a4 26.b4 a3 27.Bf1 Bd7 28.Qe3 Qc7 29.Bd3 g6 30.Rb1 Rbc8 31.Rf1 c5 32.b5 Qa5 33.Rfc1 c4 34.Bc2 Bxb5 35.exd5 exd5 36.f5 d4 37.Qxd4 Rcd8 38.Qe5 Rfe8 39.Qg3 gxf5 40.Bxf5 Bd7 41.g6 f6 42.Bc2 Re2 43.Rb4 Be6 44.Bb1 Qe5 45.Qxe5 Rxe5 46.Rf1 f5 47.Rb6 Rdd5 48.Ra6 Ra5 49.Rc6 Kg7 50.Rg1 Ra7 51.Rb6 Rd7 52.Rf1 Kxg6 53.Rxe6+ Rxe6 54.Bxf5+ Kf7 55.Bh3+ Ke7 56.Bxe6 Kxe6 57.Kb1 Ke5 58.Rf8 Rd1+ 59.Kc2 Rh1 60.Ra8 Rh2+ 61.Kb1 Rxh4 62.Rxa3 Kf4 63.Ra7 Rg4 64.a4 Kg3 65.a5 Rg6 66.Ka2 h4 67.Ka3 h3 68.Rh7 h2 69.Kb4 Rg4 70.Rxh2 Kxh2 71.a6 Kg3 72.a7 Rg8 73.Kxc4 Ra8 74.Kd5 Kf4 75.c4 Rxa7 76.c5 Rd7+ 77.Ke6 Rg7 78.c6 Ke4 0-1

And another:

[Event "Partita con Elo, 60m + 15s"]

[Site "Gioco con programmi"]

[Date "2011.02.17"]

[Round "?"]

[White "Mortal_Sin, DeepSaros.exe ver.2.3f"]

[Black "VanillaQueen, Houdini 1.5a x64 GT"]

[Result "1/2-1/2"]

[WhiteElo "2575"]

[BlackElo "2598"]

[ECO "B52"]

[EventDate "2011.02.17"]

[Annotator "0.07;0.00"]

[PlyCount "353"]

[TimeControl "3600+15"]

1.e4 c5 2.Nf3 d6 3.a4 Bd7 4.Bb5 Nc6 5.O-O Nf6 6.Nc3 e6 7.d4 cxd4 8.Nxd4 Be7 9.a5 e5 10.Nf3 a6 11.Bxc6 Bxc6 12.Qd3 O-O 13.Bg5 Ng4 14.Bxe7 Qxe7 15.Rfe1 Rad8 16.Qc4 Nf6 17.Rad1 Rfe8 18.Nh4 Nxe4 19.Rxe4 d5 20.Nxd5 Bxd5 21.Rxd5 Rxd5 22.Qxd5 Rd8 23.Nf5 Qc7 24.Rxe5 Kf8 25.g3 Rxd5 26.Rxd5 g6 27.Ne3 Kg7 28.h4 h5 29.b3 Qc3 30.Kf1 Qf6 31.Rc5 Qa1+ 32.Ke2 Qa3 33.Rg5 Qb4 34.Re5 Qc3 35.f4 Qb4 36.Rg5 f6 37.Rd5 Kf8 38.Rd8+ Kf7 39.Kf3 Qe7 40.Rd4 Kg7 41.b4 Kh6 42.Ke2 Qc7 43.Kd3 Qc6 44.Rd5 Qa4 45.c3 Qc6 46.Kd2 Qe6 47.Ke2 Qh3 48.Rd6 Qxg3 49.Rxf6 Qh2+ 50.Kd3 Kg7 51.Rb6 Qxh4 52.Rxb7+ Kh6 53.f5 Qd8+ 54.Ke2 gxf5 55.Nxf5+ Kg5 56.Nd4 Qd5 57.Rc7 Kf4 58.Kf2 h4 59.Ne2+ Ke4 60.Re7+ Kf5 61.Nd4+ Kg6 62.Re3 Qg5 63.Ne2 Kh5 64.Re4 Qf6+ 65.Rf4 Qd6 66.Kf3 Qd7 67.Rd4 Qh3+ 68.Kf2 Qh2+ 69.Kf3 Qh1+ 70.Ke3 Kg5 71.Rf4 h3 72.Rf5+ Kg6 73.Rh5 Kg7 74.b5 Qg2 75.b6 h2 76.b7 Qxb7 77.Rxh2 Qe7+ 78.Kf2 Qc5+ 79.Ke1 Qxa5 80.Rg2+ Kf6 81.Rf2+ Ke7 82.Rf3 Qa2 83.Nd4 a5 84.Rf2 Qb1+ 85.Kd2 a4 86.Nc2 Qb5 87.Re2+ Kd7 88.Re3 Qa5 89.Rd3+ Kc7 90.Na3 Qg5+ 91.Kc2 Qg2+ 92.Kc1 Qg1+ 93.Kb2 Qf2+ 94.Kc1 Qe1+ 95.Kc2 Qa1 96.c4 Kb6 97.Kd2 Qa2+ 98.Kc1 Kc5 99.Rc3 Qf2 100.Nc2 Qg2 101.Kb2 Qg7 102.Na3 Qb7+ 103.Ka2 Qb8 104.Nc2 Qh2 105.Ka3 Qd2 106.Kb2 Qf4 107.Na3 Qh2+ 108.Nc2 Qg2 109.Ka3 Qb7 110.Ka2 Qb6 111.Ka1 Qf6 112.Kb2 Qg6 113.Ra3 Qe8 114.Rc3 Qe5 115.Na3 Qg7 116.Nc2 Qh8 117.Na3 Qd4 118.Nc2 Qd2 119.Ra3 Qd7 120.Rc3 Qd6 121.Ka3 Qb6 122.Ka2 Qa5 123.Kb2 Qd8 124.Ka2 Qb8 125.Na3 Qb4 126.Nb1 Kc6 127.Ka1 Qd6 128.Ka2 Qd4 129.Rc2 Qd3 130.Rc3 Qe2+ 131.Ka3 Qe1 132.Ka2 Qf2+ 133.Ka3 Qg1 134.Kb2 Qh2+ 135.Rc2 Qb8+ 136.Kc1 Kc5 137.Rc3 Qe5 138.Kc2 Qh2+ 139.Kc1 Qe2 140.Na3 Kb4 141.Nb1 Qf1+ 142.Kb2 Qf2+ 143.Rc2 Qf3 144.Nc3 a3+ 145.Ka2 Qa8 146.Nd5+ Kc5 147.Rc3 Qa4 148.Ne3 Qa5 149.Rxa3 Qd2+ 150.Kb1 Qb4+ 151.Ka2 Qe1 152.Kb2 Qf2+ 153.Kb1 Qg1+ 154.Kc2 Qh2+ 155.Kd3 Qc7 156.Ke2 Qh7 157.Ra5+ Kc6 158.Nf5 Qh8 159.Kd3 Qh3+ 160.Kd4 Qg4+ 161.Kc3 Qf3+ 162.Kb4 Qf2 163.Ne7+ Kb7 164.Rb5+ Kc7 165.Nd5+ Kc6 166.Rb6+ Qxb6+ 167.Nxb6 Kxb6 168.c5+ Kc7 169.Kb5 Kb7 170.c6+ Kc8 171.Kb4 Kd8 172.Kc4 Kc8 173.Kb5 Kc7 174.Kc5 Kc8 175.Kb5 Kc7 176.Kc5 Kc8 177.Kb5 1/2-1/2

The engine has been tested in numerous long-time games on the site PlayChess.com. The official tester, he nik "Mortal_Sin". Another example:

Houdini 1.5a x64 (6 cores): 27.7 plies; 17.386kN/s Intel(R) Core(TM) i7 CPU X 980 @ 3.33GHz 3337MHz, ArmourOfGod-7.1.0.ctg, 1024 MB

[Event "Partita con Elo, 60m + 15s"]

[Site "Gioco con programmi"]

[Date "2011.03.11"]

[Round "?"]

[White "Romanzev, Houdini 1.5a x64"]

[Black "Mortal_Sin, DeepSaros.exe ver.2.3f"]

[Result "0-1"]

[WhiteElo "2631"]

[BlackElo "2546"]

[ECO "B81"]

[EventDate "2011.03.11"]

[Annotator "-0.03;-0.13"]

[PlyCount "156"]

[TimeControl "3600+15"]

1.e4 c5 2.Nf3 d6 3.d4 cxd4 4.Nxd4 Nf6 5.Nc3 a6 6.h3 e6 7.g4 h6 8.Bg2 Be7 9.Be3 Nc6 10.f4 Nd7 11.Nxc6 bxc6 12.Qd2 Rb8 13.O-O-O d5 14.Na4 O-O 15.b3 Bb4 16.c3 Ba3+ 17.Kb1 Qa5 18.Ka1 Nc5 19.Nxc5 Bxc5 20.Bxc5 Qxc5 21.h4 a5 22.g5 h5 23.Rhe1 Qa3 24.Qb2 Qd6 25.Qd2 a4 26.b4 a3 27.Bf1 Bd7 28.Qe3 Qc7 29.Bd3 g6 30.Rb1 Rbc8 31.Rf1 c5 32.b5 Qa5 33.Rfc1 c4 34.Bc2 Bxb5 35.exd5 exd5 36.f5 d4 37.Qxd4 Rcd8 38.Qe5 Rfe8 39.Qg3 gxf5 40.Bxf5 Bd7 41.g6 f6 42.Bc2 Re2 43.Rb4 Be6 44.Bb1 Qe5 45.Qxe5 Rxe5 46.Rf1 f5 47.Rb6 Rdd5 48.Ra6 Ra5 49.Rc6 Kg7 50.Rg1 Ra7 51.Rb6 Rd7 52.Rf1 Kxg6 53.Rxe6+ Rxe6 54.Bxf5+ Kf7 55.Bh3+ Ke7 56.Bxe6 Kxe6 57.Kb1 Ke5 58.Rf8 Rd1+ 59.Kc2 Rh1 60.Ra8 Rh2+ 61.Kb1 Rxh4 62.Rxa3 Kf4 63.Ra7 Rg4 64.a4 Kg3 65.a5 Rg6 66.Ka2 h4 67.Ka3 h3 68.Rh7 h2 69.Kb4 Rg4 70.Rxh2 Kxh2 71.a6 Kg3 72.a7 Rg8 73.Kxc4 Ra8 74.Kd5 Kf4 75.c4 Rxa7 76.c5 Rd7+ 77.Ke6 Rg7 78.c6 Ke4 0-1

And another:

[Event "Partita con Elo, 60m + 15s"]

[Site "Gioco con programmi"]

[Date "2011.02.17"]

[Round "?"]

[White "Mortal_Sin, DeepSaros.exe ver.2.3f"]

[Black "VanillaQueen, Houdini 1.5a x64 GT"]

[Result "1/2-1/2"]

[WhiteElo "2575"]

[BlackElo "2598"]

[ECO "B52"]

[EventDate "2011.02.17"]

[Annotator "0.07;0.00"]

[PlyCount "353"]

[TimeControl "3600+15"]

1.e4 c5 2.Nf3 d6 3.a4 Bd7 4.Bb5 Nc6 5.O-O Nf6 6.Nc3 e6 7.d4 cxd4 8.Nxd4 Be7 9.a5 e5 10.Nf3 a6 11.Bxc6 Bxc6 12.Qd3 O-O 13.Bg5 Ng4 14.Bxe7 Qxe7 15.Rfe1 Rad8 16.Qc4 Nf6 17.Rad1 Rfe8 18.Nh4 Nxe4 19.Rxe4 d5 20.Nxd5 Bxd5 21.Rxd5 Rxd5 22.Qxd5 Rd8 23.Nf5 Qc7 24.Rxe5 Kf8 25.g3 Rxd5 26.Rxd5 g6 27.Ne3 Kg7 28.h4 h5 29.b3 Qc3 30.Kf1 Qf6 31.Rc5 Qa1+ 32.Ke2 Qa3 33.Rg5 Qb4 34.Re5 Qc3 35.f4 Qb4 36.Rg5 f6 37.Rd5 Kf8 38.Rd8+ Kf7 39.Kf3 Qe7 40.Rd4 Kg7 41.b4 Kh6 42.Ke2 Qc7 43.Kd3 Qc6 44.Rd5 Qa4 45.c3 Qc6 46.Kd2 Qe6 47.Ke2 Qh3 48.Rd6 Qxg3 49.Rxf6 Qh2+ 50.Kd3 Kg7 51.Rb6 Qxh4 52.Rxb7+ Kh6 53.f5 Qd8+ 54.Ke2 gxf5 55.Nxf5+ Kg5 56.Nd4 Qd5 57.Rc7 Kf4 58.Kf2 h4 59.Ne2+ Ke4 60.Re7+ Kf5 61.Nd4+ Kg6 62.Re3 Qg5 63.Ne2 Kh5 64.Re4 Qf6+ 65.Rf4 Qd6 66.Kf3 Qd7 67.Rd4 Qh3+ 68.Kf2 Qh2+ 69.Kf3 Qh1+ 70.Ke3 Kg5 71.Rf4 h3 72.Rf5+ Kg6 73.Rh5 Kg7 74.b5 Qg2 75.b6 h2 76.b7 Qxb7 77.Rxh2 Qe7+ 78.Kf2 Qc5+ 79.Ke1 Qxa5 80.Rg2+ Kf6 81.Rf2+ Ke7 82.Rf3 Qa2 83.Nd4 a5 84.Rf2 Qb1+ 85.Kd2 a4 86.Nc2 Qb5 87.Re2+ Kd7 88.Re3 Qa5 89.Rd3+ Kc7 90.Na3 Qg5+ 91.Kc2 Qg2+ 92.Kc1 Qg1+ 93.Kb2 Qf2+ 94.Kc1 Qe1+ 95.Kc2 Qa1 96.c4 Kb6 97.Kd2 Qa2+ 98.Kc1 Kc5 99.Rc3 Qf2 100.Nc2 Qg2 101.Kb2 Qg7 102.Na3 Qb7+ 103.Ka2 Qb8 104.Nc2 Qh2 105.Ka3 Qd2 106.Kb2 Qf4 107.Na3 Qh2+ 108.Nc2 Qg2 109.Ka3 Qb7 110.Ka2 Qb6 111.Ka1 Qf6 112.Kb2 Qg6 113.Ra3 Qe8 114.Rc3 Qe5 115.Na3 Qg7 116.Nc2 Qh8 117.Na3 Qd4 118.Nc2 Qd2 119.Ra3 Qd7 120.Rc3 Qd6 121.Ka3 Qb6 122.Ka2 Qa5 123.Kb2 Qd8 124.Ka2 Qb8 125.Na3 Qb4 126.Nb1 Kc6 127.Ka1 Qd6 128.Ka2 Qd4 129.Rc2 Qd3 130.Rc3 Qe2+ 131.Ka3 Qe1 132.Ka2 Qf2+ 133.Ka3 Qg1 134.Kb2 Qh2+ 135.Rc2 Qb8+ 136.Kc1 Kc5 137.Rc3 Qe5 138.Kc2 Qh2+ 139.Kc1 Qe2 140.Na3 Kb4 141.Nb1 Qf1+ 142.Kb2 Qf2+ 143.Rc2 Qf3 144.Nc3 a3+ 145.Ka2 Qa8 146.Nd5+ Kc5 147.Rc3 Qa4 148.Ne3 Qa5 149.Rxa3 Qd2+ 150.Kb1 Qb4+ 151.Ka2 Qe1 152.Kb2 Qf2+ 153.Kb1 Qg1+ 154.Kc2 Qh2+ 155.Kd3 Qc7 156.Ke2 Qh7 157.Ra5+ Kc6 158.Nf5 Qh8 159.Kd3 Qh3+ 160.Kd4 Qg4+ 161.Kc3 Qf3+ 162.Kb4 Qf2 163.Ne7+ Kb7 164.Rb5+ Kc7 165.Nd5+ Kc6 166.Rb6+ Qxb6+ 167.Nxb6 Kxb6 168.c5+ Kc7 169.Kb5 Kb7 170.c6+ Kc8 171.Kb4 Kd8 172.Kc4 Kc8 173.Kb5 Kc7 174.Kc5 Kc8 175.Kb5 Kc7 176.Kc5 Kc8 177.Kb5 1/2-1/2

I'm collecting the games in one file, I have about 70 games. Statistically, there are few, but long-time matches "steal" a lot of time...

Roberto

(Incredible Bobinsky on Chess.com)

Roberto

(Incredible Bobinsky on Chess.com)

Okay, Good Luck :sm6:Sandrino72 wrote:Naaah... Human Vs. Human. 3 min super blitz... It's beautiful!

Surely you've used a version that is NOT compatible with your CPU.

In blitz games D.S. is weaker than Houdini ... But not so much! :-)

In any case, the engine is designed to give maximum in long-time plays. Run tests from 1' is absurd...

In blitz games D.S. is weaker than Houdini ... But not so much! :-)

In any case, the engine is designed to give maximum in long-time plays. Run tests from 1' is absurd...

I used Icore2 was it not right for I7?

what is suppose the minimum time to show his strenght?

thx

:sm44:

what is suppose the minimum time to show his strenght?

thx

:sm44:

Correct. This is strange... You are sure you have correctly set the UCI parameters?

MultiThread = true

CPUs = 4

MultiThread = true

CPUs = 4

I tested deep saros 2.3f, Houdini 1.5a a lot better!!

A new engine which will beat Houdini is not born yet!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!Nevertheless all we hope an another engine champion as Houdini is.

A new engine which will beat Houdini is not born yet!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!Nevertheless all we hope an another engine champion as Houdini is.

Sandrino72 wrote:Correct. This is strange... You are sure you have correctly set the UCI parameters?

MultiThread = true

CPUs = 4

the only thing i changed was the cpu (and checked before hand if it was working) to 8

@picasso:

I do not know what to tell you, many people with i2 and i7 CPUs have good results ... Houdini is stronger, but has not won so much as in your test ...

@jeandis:

Is very easy ... In words! :-)

Houdini is a very strong engine and I doubt that, in the short term, any engine can beat it. But in long time games the difference is less marked. In these cases, even Houdini can be defeated.

I do not know what to tell you, many people with i2 and i7 CPUs have good results ... Houdini is stronger, but has not won so much as in your test ...

@jeandis:

Is very easy ... In words! :-)

Houdini is a very strong engine and I doubt that, in the short term, any engine can beat it. But in long time games the difference is less marked. In these cases, even Houdini can be defeated.

Robert Houdàrt did a great job with Houdini, but all new engines (Houdini, StockFish, Critter, etc.) would not be as strong without the ideas and the code of Ippolit series.

With Ippolit, came a new wind in the world of chess engines. It was too long that the commercial chess engine did not produce innovations. The only progress was in the price! Now, the new generation of free engines, will force them to move. Competition is always good for users.

With Ippolit, came a new wind in the world of chess engines. It was too long that the commercial chess engine did not produce innovations. The only progress was in the price! Now, the new generation of free engines, will force them to move. Competition is always good for users.

Thank you Sandrino72 for your efforts

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