@stunter wrote:i put the firebird extreme 1.5exe in the same folder as my firebird 1.31 where my totalbases and triple bases are. I can get the triplebases to work fine if i type in the path however if i do the same exact thing and type the path for the totalbases the totalbases dont seem to work???

Fire 1.31 u didnt have to type in the path. All you had to do was check the box to use total and triple and robbobasses (all 3). This time around it looks like u must use a path name which is fine but please tell me why the totalbases are not working??? Im getting hits all day on the triple by itself but if i use the totalbases by itself no tb hits at all :sm38:

@fustuk25 wrote: hi stunter which windows r u using? :?: :?:

@kranium wrote:

@stunter wrote:i put the firebird extreme 1.5exe in the same folder as my firebird 1.31 where my totalbases and triple bases are. I can get the triplebases to work fine if i type in the path however if i do the same exact thing and type the path for the totalbases the totalbases dont seem to work???

Fire 1.31 u didnt have to type in the path. All you had to do was check the box to use total and triple and robbobasses (all 3). This time around it looks like u must use a path name which is fine but please tell me why the totalbases are not working??? Im getting hits all day on the triple by itself but if i use the totalbases by itself no tb hits at all :sm38:

don't forget that the Totalbases are used only at the very very end...
when 6 or fewer pieces remain...

for ex:
set up a position with KPP, and KP

if Totalbases are working you won't see a full PV...
only one score...

also, to test:
enable Verbose UCI, and Verbose Robbobases via fire.cfg ot UCI options...
now you can clearly see it the Totalbases are being loaded or not...

looking for TBHits via the GUI is not a valid indication of Totalbase functionality...

@stunter wrote:

@kranium wrote:

@stunter wrote:i put the firebird extreme 1.5exe in the same folder as my firebird 1.31 where my totalbases and triple bases are. I can get the triplebases to work fine if i type in the path however if i do the same exact thing and type the path for the totalbases the totalbases dont seem to work???

Fire 1.31 u didnt have to type in the path. All you had to do was check the box to use total and triple and robbobasses (all 3). This time around it looks like u must use a path name which is fine but please tell me why the totalbases are not working??? Im getting hits all day on the triple by itself but if i use the totalbases by itself no tb hits at all :sm38:

don't forget that the Totalbases are used only at the very very end...
when 6 or fewer pieces remain...

for ex:
set up a position with KPP, and KP

if Totalbases are working you won't see a full PV...
only one score...

also, to test:
enable Verbose UCI, and Verbose Robbobases via fire.cfg ot UCI options...
now you can clearly see it the Totalbases are being loaded or not...

looking for TBHits via the GUI is not a valid indication of Totalbase functionality...

Ok so i set up that position as you mentioned (white to move) and heres what it shows in the engine panel

+- (229.91) 00:00:00

I tried without using the totalbases and in the engine panel you can see the engine calculating in all the engine panel windows. Does that mean my totalbases work??

For the second test of the .cfg file please instruct me how to enable Verbose UCI, and Verbose Robbobases via fire.cfg its been a while lol.

@stunter wrote:Also what are the best totalbase cache, dynamic triplebase cache, and triplebase hash settings please? on default there all 1 which seems really low right?

@kranium wrote:

@stunter wrote:

@kranium wrote:

@stunter wrote:i put the firebird extreme 1.5exe in the same folder as my firebird 1.31 where my totalbases and triple bases are. I can get the triplebases to work fine if i type in the path however if i do the same exact thing and type the path for the totalbases the totalbases dont seem to work???

Fire 1.31 u didnt have to type in the path. All you had to do was check the box to use total and triple and robbobasses (all 3). This time around it looks like u must use a path name which is fine but please tell me why the totalbases are not working??? Im getting hits all day on the triple by itself but if i use the totalbases by itself no tb hits at all :sm38:

don't forget that the Totalbases are used only at the very very end...
when 6 or fewer pieces remain...

for ex:
set up a position with KPP, and KP

if Totalbases are working you won't see a full PV...
only one score...

also, to test:
enable Verbose UCI, and Verbose Robbobases via fire.cfg ot UCI options...
now you can clearly see it the Totalbases are being loaded or not...

looking for TBHits via the GUI is not a valid indication of Totalbase functionality...

Ok so i set up that position as you mentioned (white to move) and heres what it shows in the engine panel

+- (229.91) 00:00:00

I tried without using the totalbases and in the engine panel you can see the engine calculating in all the engine panel windows. Does that mean my totalbases work??

For the second test of the .cfg file please instruct me how to enable Verbose UCI, and Verbose Robbobases via fire.cfg its been a while lol.

yes the totalbases are working...
that's why you see just 1 score...not a lot of calculation.

to use the fire.cfg:
type 'default' at the command prompt

then 'quit' to exit...
now, edit the fire.cfg with notepad or wordpad
(fire.cfg was created in the same directory as the Fire executable)

change
Verbose_UCI 0
to
Verbose_UCI 1

and
Verbose_RobboBases 0
to
Verbose_RobboBases 1

1 is 'on', 0 is 'off'

save the file
restart Fire in your favorite GUI...
you should see much much more info...
most of which pertains to the loading of the triple and total bases


PS -
both of these can also be turned on via the GUI UCI options dialog window...

Ahmed wrote:kranium, do you noticed that time management in Fire 1.5 xTreme is not so good ? i think that time management in Fire 1.3.1 was better.

@kranium wrote:

@stunter wrote:Im also using deep fritz 12 Gui. Another question is fire 1.5 keeps crashing even with out the true value of verbose uci and verbose robbobases. Anyone else having this issue?? It keeps saying causes an exception and stops working. If i close out all the crashing windows it will sometimes continue to work from where it was last caculating and sometimes not :?:

I have Fritz 12 (not Deep!?)...and is working fine here (32 bit version).

there have been others that experienced problems with some chessbase GUIs...
i suspect it may be the UCI option names themselves, but not sure.
i'm working hard to identify and resolve the issue...for 1.6 release.

question:
do you also have crashes using Fritz 12 when using IvanHoe, or any other program?

@kudatrojan wrote:

Hi Kranium ,
This is my problem when using Fire 1.5xTreemx64 engine , can you help me what I must to do ? Thanks

@Carlos wrote:yes

@tymoteuszch00 wrote:hi kranium!
Why do people think that fire 1.5 Xtreme is a clone?

@Rossky wrote:If i find a setting for fireX to win with black , the same setting is bad when fire plays with white.
Fire x win with this setting for black, once or twice but third time houdin remember this figure constellation and lost game , changed his search and start his evaluation from a very low depth to find a complet new solution and in the end he find a remis or lost again. So i think he has a learning algorithm ....
Is it possibel to implantate something like this in fireX ??

@Carlos wrote::goodjob2: kranium
please version for AMD processor
Thanks in advance