Can anyone suggest me a good book for houdini 2.0 pro
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For Engine - Engine matches, or Human matches? Some books are excellent for use on players, and other are heavily tuned for engine - engine matches.
elricward wrote:For Engine - Engine matches, or Human matches? Some books are excellent for use on players, and other are heavily tuned for engine - engine matches.
A great number of opening books appears in the forum but for very few of them the author mentions if they were prepared for Human matches or for Engine-Engine matches !
Last edited by Marijan on Thu Nov 10, 2011 2:19 pm; edited 1 time in total (Reason for editing : Quote was set wrong...)
Books that focus on just a few critical lines and have a vast number of games dedicated to those lines are generally engine - engine books. Books geared towards human players tend to take a more generalized approach to openings, with a greater number of openings but less detailed lines.
Engine - Engine books
Victorius
Black Mamba
Hitman
Defiant
etc.
Human Match/Hybrid books
Fritz 13
CS Powerbook
Rybka 4 book
etc.
I tend to consider books like Fallen IV, Killer Saga, etc. to be hybrid books. Doing well in both arenas but at the cost of some performance in both. (At least at tournament size books)
Engine - Engine books
Victorius
Black Mamba
Hitman
Defiant
etc.
Human Match/Hybrid books
Fritz 13
CS Powerbook
Rybka 4 book
etc.
I tend to consider books like Fallen IV, Killer Saga, etc. to be hybrid books. Doing well in both arenas but at the cost of some performance in both. (At least at tournament size books)
elricward
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this book with with 100 main lines? 
1 e4 lines m working last 1 yrs and he played all d4,b4 e4 abd rest so many openings. loll all ll. how it possible.
I3rilliance
1 e4 lines m working last 1 yrs and he played all d4,b4 e4 abd rest so many openings. loll all ll. how it possible.I3rilliance
i luv it....Great book!!! very attractive!!
i think Great book is book made with genuine idea..
.i'm a big fans of hitman., victorius and kumander n' now i think i have a new one!!
i'm not really agree if hitman called engine-engine book even if it say just focus in few critical lines for its reason, i prefered to call it book with genuine idea!!
with no book, i think no engine would play 1. e3 then 2.c4 even in 100000 hours in analize!!! its a human brain idea played and analized with engine help. so i think its not a definite engine-engine book
for other example is the kumander, when the opponent play 1.e4 kumander likes to play 1...e5(ruy lopez) then choose the variation with idea to get the queen out of the board quick. perhaps the author idea n strategy is to have the game leads in to an easy draw match when it plays in black piece and then figth for maximum poin in white next.
but if we play the ruy lopez until 3.Bb5 then close the book and let the engine itself to analize for next move, i think its rarely to see the engine choosing its queen to exchange very quick.
idea to get the queen out of board quick to have an easy draw match also played by kramnik against Deep Fritz endeed with 4-4 result.
even im not a book author but i think a good book is book made with a genuine idea and strategy setting, played and analized by the engine!!
and killer saga is one of that good book!!
i respect all of the book maker!! they all are great!!
i think Great book is book made with genuine idea..
.i'm a big fans of hitman., victorius and kumander n' now i think i have a new one!!
i'm not really agree if hitman called engine-engine book even if it say just focus in few critical lines for its reason, i prefered to call it book with genuine idea!!
with no book, i think no engine would play 1. e3 then 2.c4 even in 100000 hours in analize!!! its a human brain idea played and analized with engine help. so i think its not a definite engine-engine book
for other example is the kumander, when the opponent play 1.e4 kumander likes to play 1...e5(ruy lopez) then choose the variation with idea to get the queen out of the board quick. perhaps the author idea n strategy is to have the game leads in to an easy draw match when it plays in black piece and then figth for maximum poin in white next.
but if we play the ruy lopez until 3.Bb5 then close the book and let the engine itself to analize for next move, i think its rarely to see the engine choosing its queen to exchange very quick.
idea to get the queen out of board quick to have an easy draw match also played by kramnik against Deep Fritz endeed with 4-4 result.
even im not a book author but i think a good book is book made with a genuine idea and strategy setting, played and analized by the engine!!
and killer saga is one of that good book!!
i respect all of the book maker!! they all are great!!
Laban wrote:my test
What processor did you use ?
What was the time control ?
Can you share the games ?
Thanks
[quote=What processor did you use ?
What was the time control ?
Can you share the games ?
Thanks[/quote]
core 1.5 up to 2.9 ghz(not the monster
)
time control blitz 5 minutes
hash 256
ponder off
book learning on
fritz13 gui
gaviota tablebases
(i always use blitz 5 minutes(no pause) or blitz 5+10(with pause) for all my test)!!!
test played with continues time no pause for more than 12 hours!!!
for ur corious, anxious n' spirit i'll upload pgn next!!! ive made thousands games of test on my comp here..need time to search and filt the game on my backup tour eng database...!!!
ure asking for pgn played for 2 weeks ago!!..lol
What was the time control ?
Can you share the games ?
Thanks[/quote]
core 1.5 up to 2.9 ghz(not the monster
)time control blitz 5 minutes
hash 256
ponder off
book learning on
fritz13 gui
gaviota tablebases
(i always use blitz 5 minutes(no pause) or blitz 5+10(with pause) for all my test)!!!
test played with continues time no pause for more than 12 hours!!!
for ur corious, anxious n' spirit i'll upload pgn next!!! ive made thousands games of test on my comp here..need time to search and filt the game on my backup tour eng database...!!!
ure asking for pgn played for 2 weeks ago!!..lol
thenx mr Message [Page 2 of 3]
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