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Can somebody tell me for chess use what is better PC processor I can buy and by how much?

Also is something new almost arrive? Amd buldozer? witch will be the best for chess?

thanks
Capablanca

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you want AMD or Intel processor ?

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I want the best since i'm going to build the computer myself this week. Or you think I should wait 1 or 2 months and buy a brand new processor / a new arrival?
I have +/- 2000 euro to spend...




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Maybe this helps :sm26:
http://hubpages.com/hub/Core-i7-CPU

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I think i7 980X Extreme is too much expensive.

Between i7 2600 3.40GHz (socket 1155) and i7 950 3.0 GHz (socket 1366) which one will be the best choice to run chess software?

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http://www.cpubenchmark.net/high_end_cpus.html#cpuvalue

I think (currently) Intel Core i5-2500K is a best buy CPU (considering to its price) for computer chess purpose. BTW, this processor has a great OC potential.

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@Capablanca wrote:

Between i7 2600 3.40GHz (socket 1155) and i7 950 3.0 GHz (socket 1366) which one will be the best choice to run chess software?


Of course, Intel Core i7-2600K is a much better option. :)
http://www.pureoverclock.com/review.php?id=1178&page=13



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Ok! I've already chosen the processor (i7 2600K) :D
And now about the other components (motherboard, memory, etc) do you have any suggestions?
I would like to build a very good computer for chess.

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@Capablanca wrote:
Ok! I've already chosen the processor (i7 2600K) :D
And now about the other components (motherboard, memory, etc) do you have any suggestions?
I would like to build a very good computer for chess.


If you plan to OC your CPU, then it is best that you read the posts on the forums of a OC-ers because some of MBO's had some problems in their first revisions.
BTW, I would prefer Asus (Pro or Deluxe) MBO's and Corsair memory with low latency.
WD (Western Digital) Caviar Black 1TB SATA 3 WD1002FAEX, is a very good and fast (as a system disk) HDD.
CORSAIR 650W, TX Series CMPSU-650TX will be quite enough if you do not have some of the high-end Graph. Card.
Comp. Case: Cooler Master CM690 or Cooler Master HAF 912/922/932

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Thank you for the tips!
What you think about the options?
Intel Core i7-2600K
Asus P8P67 PRO
CORSAIR KIT 4GB (2X 2GB) DDR3 1600MHZ CLASSIC / XMS3 (CL9)
GSKILL PC3-17000 RIPJAWS-X CL9 2133MHZ 4GB + CF


Yes of course i will OC the computer!

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@Capablanca wrote:
Thank you for the tips!
What you think about the options?
Intel Core i7-2600K
Asus P8P67 PRO
CORSAIR KIT 4GB (2X 2GB) DDR3 1600MHZ CLASSIC / XMS3 (CL9)
GSKILL PC3-17000 RIPJAWS-X CL9 2133MHZ 4GB + CF


Yes of course i will OC the computer!


This is a very good choice, of course, do not interfere memory chips from different manufacturers :) , and if you can, then you buy RAM with lower latency. (CAS/CL 8 )

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Thanks! Bobi74

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Hello Capablanca,
You want the best PC for Computerchess ? You want spend 2000€ ?

Maybe you like this proposing:

Processor:
i7 980X - 800/900€ (Ebay)

Motherboard:
Asus P6-X58D-E - 200€

Ram:
A-DATA XPG DDR3-1600 - 130€
6 GB Kit G-Series

Corsair- HX 650 Watt - 115€
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all: 1.245/1.345 €

The remaining 750/650 € are your wishes.

980X go easy to 4,2 GHz.
This System in Moment is the strongest(Singlesocket)System for Computerchess.

Regards

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Note:
Source: http://www.pureoverclock.com/review.php?id=1178&page=13

And if you need maximum horsepower, then the multithreaded 2600K is a behemoth for around $320, effectively neutering the Core i7 900 chips. And in many cases, a 2600K at 4.7GHz can run with a 980X at 4.2GHz while costing $700 less.


I'd rather save that money. ;) (because I am not a rich man)

P.S.: By the way, GIGABYTE UD7-P67A motherboard is also very good for OC.

5961.14 MHz with Intel Core i7 2600K + GIGABYTE UD7-P67A :
http://hwbot.org/community/submission/2134262_suicidephoenix_cpu_z_core_i7_2600k_5961.14_mhz?tab=info
http://hwbot.org/hardware/motherboard/ga_p67a_ud7

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Testo wrote:
980X go easy to 4,2 GHz.
This System in Moment is the strongest(Singlesocket)System for Computerchess.

Regards



BTW, are you 100% sure about that? :sm11:
Because I think that this could be stronger/faster than 980X :) :

5800.73 MHz :shock: :shock: with Intel Core i5 2500K on AIR !!!!! :sm2: :sm1:
http://hwbot.org/community/submission/2137550_piticu_cpu_z_core_i5_2500k_5800.73_mhz

5774.44 MHz with Intel Core i7 2600K on air :sm2:
http://hwbot.org/community/submission/2106397_roccoesa_cpu_z_core_i7_2600k_5774.44_mhz
http://www.nordichardware.com/news/79-overclocking/42155-intel-core-i7-2600k-hits-577-ghz-on-air.html

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The core i7 2500K & 2600K are really great cpu's!

But if you want the best chess performance then is the 980x much faster!
Don't forget,the 980x has still 2cores more.

If you want the best chess/price performance ..go for the Sandy Brigde cpu.
For highest but expensive chess performance 980x or 990x

You can also go for a 970 as i have..is also a 6cores/12thread cpu..only you have a locked multi till 25 ..but i'am also running at 4.2Ghz on air.

Before i have a core i7 920 @3.8Ghz ..i get with Houdini 1.5a at start position 10.000Kn/s ,now with 970 @4.2Ghz i get 16.000Kn/s ,so that's a nice gain.

And you don't need to spend 2000Euro for it..in a few month comes the AMD Bulldozer out ,is a 8core cpu..and i'am waiting to see results from it,because i think it will at least do so well as a 990x ,even better i think ,again 2cores more!
Then it depends again for how much you can build a Bulldozer system,and compare it with a 980x for example..and decide then what to take.

Ipman.

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Hello,
I am 100% agree with you !
But, I not wait for Bulldozer"Zambesi" 8 core.
I think Zambezi 8core will not be faster than 980X 6core.
I wait Q4(September/Oktober).I will then go to Sandy Brigde EX 8core.

The 2600k is definitely a good choice but he never reached 980X !!!

980X can also run with 5-6 GHz !
Demchuk it shows every day on Chessbase.
:sm2:

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If there are new releases announced, perhaps I should wait another two or three months, dont you think?

My present CPU is an "old" Intel Quad 9450 2.66GHz (overcloked 35%).

I think it can still last a few more months... :)


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@Ipman wrote:
The core i7 2500K & 2600K are really great cpu's!

But if you want the best chess performance then is the 980x much faster!
Don't forget,the 980x has still 2cores more.


Of course 980X has two cores more, but maybe it is not enough (but to be sure we should have a KN/s comparative test with these processors) to be able to compensate the large difference of about ~1600 MHz (6X~4200 vs. 4X~5800 +advanced/newer/better CPU/architecture) compared to 2600 i7.

Note, do not forget that most of the cores can not achieve (for most of the chess engines) more than 80-86% of efficiency compared to the primary core.

In the case of the Rybka engine it might look like this:

i7 980X ~4200 MHz + ~3276(~78% eff. per core)x5 Cores [16380] = 20580 Total effic. score/speed

i7 2600 ~5800 Mhz + ~4930(~85% eff. per core)X3 Cores [14790] = 20590 Total effic. score/speed

>980X can also run with 5-6 GHz !

But not (100% stable) on Air. :)

>Demchuk it shows every day on Chessbase

Actually :), this is not any type of proof, because his opponents they not possesses i7 2600@5800MHz :) and some of them have a weaker opening books than he. ;)

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@Capablanca wrote:
If there are new releases announced, perhaps I should wait another two or three months, dont you think?


If you can wait 2-3 months, then you wait :) , so when Bulldozer will be released, then you decide what you want to buy. :)

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see my pc

http://bildr.no/view/833904
http://bildr.no/view/835467

very fast very strong for chessgames

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@ROBOT wrote:
see my pc

http://bildr.no/view/833904
http://bildr.no/view/835467

very fast very strong for chessgames



How much can cost (in euro) a PC like that one?


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Hello
I have assembled my Pc
all parts purchased Separately
it cost about 2500 Euro
Regards

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here i make more picture

http://bildr.no/view/840033

http://bildr.no/view/840036

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nice pc :) and nice books maker :)

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