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@l3rilliance I missed you with your meaningless interventions ..
I have released 2 distinct versions one for the game and one for the analysis marked Iccf
if you concentrate calmly you can understand it too dear Premraj Natarajan cool

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You are correct. I should have moved that NNUE file. Plays well now.

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ok mister MZ you still dont understand the point.
Thing is for solving positions for choosing an engine for playing say for example in Engine room we need to test only that engine with test positions ok. This is all what i said, your purpose is different you are telling for full time positions tests you have made iccf engine so the purpose is different. In this case your iccf engine will be best for correspondence chess I believe.
I can understand this now so continue MZ. Its good you are able to find who I am. yes its me your student.
You only wanted to break our relationship it wasnot me. You were upset that I didnot say "Thank You" for your help.
Ok right now I say Thanks for all the help you did to me. Its like one stepping stone in Engine chess life.

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I consider absolutely reliable @Oliprog and @Ghppn results and in bona fide, but we are obtaining very different performances, probably based on setup, book openings and learning. I'd like to have also the link to download Manifest and other books used in these tests to train ProteusSF  smile

Please @Oliprog IF you test ProteusSF RBE 008a use Predator 2.2.bin by Eduard Nemeth smile to verify my results.


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Kind regards, Alex

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Файлом опыта кто нибудь может поделится ?

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lazza488 wrote:
You are correct. I should have moved that NNUE file. Plays well now.


Yes ,I guessed correctly what was your problem .And it may happens when the nnue net is not embedded. But most important thing here , we shouldn’t misjudge others or their works very soon ,specially in a public atmosphere.
Best regards

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igor 1959 wrote:
Файлом опыта кто нибудь может поделится ?


Ask also to Marco, but you can use every SugarR, Eman, ProteusSF RBE 008 | 008a .exp file with StockfishMZ.
It has been released some days ago and HIS exp file is very small.

Kind regards, Alex

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AlexChess wrote:
igor 1959 wrote:
Файлом опыта кто нибудь может поделится ?


Ask also to Marco, but you can use every SugarR, Eman, ProteusSF RBE 008 | 008a .exp file with StockfishMZ.
It has been released some days ago and HIS exp file is very small.

Kind regards, Alex

I have noticed that there is little clarity on how to use the learning files and how to use them correctly
summing up
Sugar
Eman
StockfishMZ
Proteus
and HypnoS (my private engine)
they are all compatible with each other because the signature is always the same "V2"
This does not mean that its use leads to an advantage, quite the opposite.
..
The only correct way to use the LEARNING file is for each engine to play, analyze and learn only with the owner file.

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@Mark62 the ProteusSF 008a logo was imagined to be a PEACE message for all us (@RSilvian I HATE all weapons, change my Kermit logo 😂)

Now that I can finally edit posts in Chess2U, I'm removing some offensive words said to somebody here, since I'm not completely idiot to not understand when I'm going too far with jokes. I don't understand Altervista related comment but I've removed the incipit on my Chess.com Page much before these comments.

Next ProteusSF Aurora 009 will be based on latest
Ron Doughie's (Sarona) modified Stockfish source with learning (prototype ready much before your kind gift for my 008a release) AND your ProteusSF Experience Tools really appreciated and useful.

It will be a PRIVATE engine or released not before July, it depends on ProteusSF RBE 008a reception that on my tests Is very good and with ProteusSF.exp and Eduard Nemeth's Predator 2.2.bin book can become every day stronger. 😀

Marco Zerbinati you are A GREAT MAN!)

PEACE, Alessandro Morales

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deeds wrote:
Maybe it's time for HypnoS to update from the old "sugar experience v2" file format to an optimized (reserved) v3 file format :
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At my level, it's easy to convert millions of v2 signatures to v3 and to update the private experience file.
In the same time, we could take ride of cheaters/saboters screwed on v2 signature because Eman, Proteus, etc couldn't use the experience v3 files from another engine.

Furthermore the filesize of the exp v3 files will save 29% because there are useless bits !
What evidences ? I randomly listed 4M moves / 125k positions from a 270MB experience file and the values of these useless bits were always equal to "0" :
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Why not publish your own engine with yor great level of programming?

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deeds wrote:
None knows my vb.net skills and i don't care ! Those who are interested already requested me and use my tools.
All the strongest chess engines will become private soon.


for sure and the earth is flat

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Dear @Mark62

Using just now your much appreciated gift (based on StockfishMZ gemini app) for merging ProteusSF.exp (after defrag) with a giant 500 Mb Eman.exp from 1500 Playchess games to verify if it is useful smile Procedure works fine and fast even on my slow Windows 11 ARM64 4 CPUs bigsmile Proteus reads the file perfectly! I think that learning is truly the future of Stockfish and derivatives!!! Match against the Top Kayra 1.4 of my skilled friend Mehmet using TCEC 22 unbalanced openings (was -5 / 100 on first learning cicle... while your build scores fine 50-50 with Predator 2.2 vs Kayra 1.1 Eduard Nemeth's books)

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Kind regards, Alex

PS: Chess2U editing is a pleasure. No more glitches and English errors allowed thumb up So this forum is moderated, thanks to the admin! clap

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In all my tests StockfishMZ is always very strong. All engines have standard configurations and no books.

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[pgn][Event "friday3, Blitz 2.0min+1.0sec"]
[Site "?"]
[Date "2022.06.03"]
[Round "6.6"]
[White "StockfishMZ 170522 avx2"]
[Black "Fat Fritz 2"]
[Result "1-0"]
[ECO "B33"]
[Annotator "0.34;0.48"]
[PlyCount "159"]
[EventDate "2022.06.03"]
[EventType "tourn"]
[SourceTitle "Fritz Engine Tournament"]
[Source "Santos"]
[TimeControl "120+1"]

{11th Gen Intel(R) Core(TM) i7-11390H @ 3.40GHz 2918 MHz W=22.0 plies; 2.638kN/
s B=23.3 plies; 2.907kN/s} 1. e4 {0.34/29 3} c5 {0.48/25 6} 2. Nf3 {0.52/28 5}
Nc6 {0.52/25 4 (d6)} 3. d4 {0.57/24 2} cxd4 {0.20/27 2} 4. Nxd4 {0.65/28 2} Nf6
{0.33/28 7} 5. Nc3 {0.63/26 2} e5 {0.10/25 2} 6. Ndb5 {0.61/28 3} d6 {0.13/25 2
} 7. Nd5 {0.59/30 6} Nxd5 {0.15/26 2} 8. exd5 {0.57/28 2} Nb8 {0.16/25 2} 9. a4
{0.52/26 2 (c4)} Be7 {0.15/22 2} 10. Be2 {0.60/28 10} O-O {0.12/27 8} 11. O-O {
0.56/27 5} Nd7 {0.22/27 10} 12. Bd2 {0.39/28 2} a6 {0.24/26 3} 13. Na3 {
0.54/27 2} a5 {0.27/24 1} 14. Nb5 {0.35/29 29 (c3)} f5 {0.23/22 2} 15. f3 {
0.54/26 6 (f4)} Nc5 {0.00/26 7 (b6)} 16. Be3 {0.38/24 5 (c3)} b6 {0.06/27 6}
17. c3 {0.50/25 2 (Bf2)} f4 {0.19/26 3} 18. Bd2 {0.59/23 2 (Bf2)} Bh4 {0.18/25
7 (Bf5)} 19. b4 {1.00/23 2} Na6 {0.39/23 2} 20. Bd3 {0.77/27 4} Bf5 {0.49/26 12
} 21. Bxf5 {0.92/23 4} Rxf5 {0.39/23 1} 22. bxa5 {1.33/24 6 (Rb1)} bxa5 {
0.51/24 3} 23. Bc1 {1.25/21 2 (Rb1)} Rf6 {0.55/28 16 (Rg5)} 24. Ba3 {1.11/22 2}
Rh6 {0.61/27 3} 25. Rb1 {1.34/22 2} Qd7 {0.69/27 2} 26. c4 {1.41/24 2} Bd8 {
0.69/27 6} 27. Nc3 {1.38/26 6} Nb4 {0.59/26 1} 28. h3 {1.37/23 1 (Kh1)} Bb6+ {
0.66/22 4} 29. Kh2 {1.63/26 2} Rb8 {0.79/22 1} 30. Ne4 {1.68/26 2} Rg6 {
0.75/26 8} 31. Re1 {1.36/29 4} Be3 {0.76/25 7 (h6)} 32. Bc1 {1.52/26 7} Bb6 {
1.10/24 2} 33. Bd2 {1.39/20 2 (Bb2)} Qc7 {1.20/24 4} 34. Qe2 {1.36/33 11 (Qb3)}
Nc2 {1.01/21 1} 35. Rec1 {1.38/21 0} Nd4 {0.97/20 1} 36. Qd3 {1.10/24 2} Rf8 {
0.96/24 3} 37. Rb5 {1.49/19 0 (c5)} Nf5 {1.03/24 6} 38. c5 {1.44/18 1} dxc5 {
1.04/17 0 (Bxc5)} 39. Rb2 {1.85/20 1} Ba7 {1.00/20 2 (c4)} 40. Be1 {2.13/21 3
(Qc4)} Ne3 {1.56/21 2 (Qf7)} 41. d6 {2.45/15 0} Qd7 {1.27/14 0 (Qc6)} 42. Qb5 {
2.68/16 1} Qxb5 {1.50/20 1 (Rxd6)} 43. Rxb5 {3.24/19 1} Rf7 {1.37/19 0 (c4)}
44. Rcb1 {3.34/19 1 (g4)} c4 {2.05/21 1} 45. Rb7 {3.74/18 1} Rxb7 {3.11/20 1}
46. Rxb7 {3.61/17 1} Bc5 {2.75/20 0} 47. d7 {3.68/19 1} Be7 {3.36/22 1} 48. Rb2
{3.56/23 1 (Kh1)} h6 {3.05/23 3} 49. h4 {4.79/18 1 (Bxa5)} Ra6 {4.33/22 2 (Kf7)
} 50. Rb8+ {5.47/19 1} Kf7 {4.21/16 0} 51. h5 {5.64/18 1} g6 {4.79/22 2 (g5)}
52. d8=R {6.33/23 3 (Re8)} Bxd8 {4.35/17 0} 53. Rxd8 {6.44/20 1} gxh5 {4.35/20
1} 54. Rd7+ {6.27/18 1} Ke8 {4.40/20 1 (Kf8)} 55. Rb7 {6.67/18 1} Rg6 {4.76/23
3} 56. Rb2 {6.79/20 1} Kd7 {4.85/22 1 (h4)} 57. Bxa5 {7.01/18 1} h4 {4.70/19 0}
58. Kh3 {7.09/19 1} Nd5 {5.05/19 1} 59. Kxh4 {7.50/22 2 (Bd2)} Ne3 {5.03/19 2
(h5)} 60. Kh3 {7.50/18 0} Nd5 {5.15/16 0} 61. Rb7+ {7.97/21 2 (Rb5)} Kc8 {
5.37/20 0} 62. Rb2 {7.89/20 1 (Rb5)} Kd7 {5.39/19 1 (h5)} 63. Rb7+ {8.04/16 0}
Kc8 {5.38/20 0 (Ke6)} 64. Rb5 {7.98/16 0} Ne3 {5.67/20 1} 65. Bc3 {8.04/19 1}
Nxg2 {5.61/23 2 (h5)} 66. a5 {8.65/18 1} Kd7 {5.55/22 2 (Ne3)} 67. a6 {9.57/19
1 (Rb1)} Rxa6 {5.48/17 0} 68. Kxg2 {9.64/25 1} Rg6+ {5.97/24 1} 69. Kh2 {
9.67/21 1 (Kh3)} Kc6 {5.97/31 0} 70. Rxe5 {9.85/19 1 (Rc5+)} Kb6 {5.99/26 1
(Kb7)} 71. Rc5 {10.16/19 1 (Kh3)} Re6 {5.99/33 1 (Ka6)} 72. Rf5 {10.68/19 2
(Rh5)} Re7 {5.99/31 1} 73. Rxf4 {10.78/21 1 (Re5)} Kc7 {6.00/27 0 (Rd7)} 74.
Rf5 {11.09/16 0 (Kh3)} Kc6 {6.07/25 1 (Re8)} 75. Rc5+ {11.51/20 1 (Rf6+)} Kb6 {
6.09/31 0} 76. Rh5 {12.05/18 1 (Rf5)} Rh7 {6.17/26 2 (Re6)} 77. Kg3 {12.82/17 2
} Ka6 {9.15/25 4 (Kc7)} 78. f4 {13.64/19 1 (Kf4)} Kb7 {10.76/20 2 (Re7)} 79. f5
{15.16/19 1} Kc7 {7.63/18 0 (Kb6)} 80. f6 {16.16/15 0 (Kf4)} 1-0

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