StockfishMZ 170522 bmi2 vs Fat_Titz_2_win64-bmi2

roraima wrote:

RSilvian wrote:

The situation after only 7 games:



+2 -1 =4

+49 Elo points for StockfishMZ (of course it's too early......)

How can you draw "sensationalist breaking news" with seven games??

A quick overview of the games and the engine is already inferior by -1 and also inferior openings move. Did you take the time to review the opening test setÉ

[Site "ISR 3"]
[Date "2022.05.20"]
[Round "3"]
[White "StockfishMZ 170522 bmi2"]
[Black "Fat_titz_2_win64-bmi2"]
[Result "1-0"]
[BlackElo "2200"]
[ECO "B12"]
[Opening "Caro-Kann"]
[Time "12"]
[Variation "de Bruycker Defence, 1.e4 c6 2.d4 Na6"]
[WhiteElo "2200"]
[TimeControl "240+2"]
[Termination "adjudication"]
[PlyCount "142"]
[WhiteType "program"]
[BlackType "program"]

1. e4 {(e2-e4) +0.23/60 0} c6 2. d4 {(d2-d4) +0.25/48 0} Na6 3. Nf3
{(Ng1-f3) +1.31/40 0} d6 {(d7-d6 Nb1-c3 Na6-c7 h2-h3 g7-g6 Bf1-d3 Bf8-g7
a2-a4 Ng8-f6 O-O Nf6-d7 Bd3-c4 O-O Rf1-e1 e7-e5 Bc1-g5 Bg7-f6 Bg5xf6 Qd8xf6
a4-a5 e5xd4 Nf3xd4 Nd7-e5 Bc4-f1 g6-g5 Qd1-d2 Nc7-e6) -1.53/26 7}


[Event "NN Test232"]
[Site "ISR 3"]
[Date "2022.05.20"]
[Round "7"]
[White "StockfishMZ 170522 bmi2"]
[Black "Fat_titz_2_win64-bmi2"]
[Result "1-0"]
[BlackElo "2200"]
[ECO "B07"]
[Opening "Pirc"]
[Time "13"]
[Variation "Pytel-Czech, 4.Nf3"]
[WhiteElo "2200"]
[TimeControl "240+2"]
[Termination "adjudication"]
[PlyCount "114"]
[WhiteType "program"]
[BlackType "program"]

1. e4 {(e2-e4) +0.23/60 0} d6 2. d4 {(d2-d4) 0.00/41 0} Nf6 3. Nc3
{(Nb1-c3) 0.00/41 0} c6 4. Nf3 {(Ng1-f3) +0.69/40 0} Bg4 5. h3 {(h2-h3)
+1.23/46 0} Bxf3 {(Bg4xf3 Qd1xf3 d6-d5 e4-e5 Nf6-d7 Bc1-g5 Qd8-b6 O-O-O
e7-e6 Kc1-b1 a7-a5 a2-a4 Bf8-b4 h3-h4 O-O h4-h5 h7-h6 Bg5-c1 Bb4xc3 Qf3xc3
c6-c5 Qc3-g3 Kg8-h8 d4xc5 Nd7xc5 Bf1-b5 Nc5-e4 Qg3-e3 Qb6xe3 Bc1xe3)
-1.64/25 9} 6. Qxf3 {(Qd1xf3) +1.29/22 0}

RSilvian wrote:

The situation after only 7 games:



1.-How can you draw "sensationalist breaking news" with seven games??

2-A quick overview of the games and the engine is already inferior by +1 and inferior openings. Did you took the same to review the opening test setÉ

RSilvian wrote:

roraima wrote:

RSilvian wrote:

The situation after only 7 games:



1.-How can you draw "sensationalist breaking news" with seven games??

2-A quick overview of the games and the engine is already inferior by +1 and inferior openings. Did you took the same to review the opening test setÉ

1.-....."sensationalist breaking news" with seven games??

If you look at two posts above you can already see that there are 77 games .......  

2.-If (if) you look at a few posts above you will see the conditions of the match: only Fat Fritz 2 is linked to SuperGM_4mvs.abk (8 plies book).


Eman fan ? Indeed, "bad" news ........ we have a free engine (not private) that looks better!

RSilvian wrote:

The situation after only 7 games:

Sorry, Silvian. I have also seen your postings for years  in Talkchess and it is the same approach.

When I agree that this is a hobby, I have checked all the opening test sets, which I use, with a strong engine to avoid bad opening resulting positions.

77 games are not conclusive, even though I am running 1000 games per match and I will never equalize the 10000 game run by the testing battery of the Stockfish Team. So I avoid drawing "sensationalist conclusions" and moderating myself to just publish the result and that people decide.

I am not an Eman fan. Sorry, other wrong affirmation. I do tests to validate to which degree a Clone Engine is "better" than the original Stockfish.

But, please, do not take me bad, just verify better the opening test sets you use, because quitting with +1 from the opening is not a valuable approach.

Thank you. (Again, sorry for the errors but this Forum prevents me to correct my messages)