Create a own Book Tournament in Fritz GUI

on Fri Sep 02, 2011 9:18 am by · on Fri Sep 02, 2011 9:18 am by

I keep getting the question:

1.how can i create a book tournament ?
2.how can i test opening books ?

here I will now give a complete description.Step by Step with Picture.

example:
you want to start a book tournament with 5 books

Step1.
they need a seperate engine for each book.5 books is 5 engines etc etc.
So, we first create 5 engines !
for our tournament we choose: Houdini 1.5ax64
1.We now go into the folder where is our engine houdini.
2.Now we copy houdini 5 times.
3.right mouse button and copy and paste.very easy !
after each copy:4. we give an immediate trademark !!
example: 1,2,3,4,5 or a,b,c,d,e
this is very important as we will later learn more

Step2.
Now we have all new engines installed in our Fritz GUI !
when installing: We give each engine an book name.we have after a nice overview !
1.go in fitz gui and klick on engine.
2.now klick on UCI Engine create.
3.klick on browse and search the folder with your Houdini Engines.
4.Now we will install very carefully in order and begin with engine Houdini "a" or "1" !!
Attention:
remember them:no engine must be installed 2 times !
only one time each engine per book !!
The tournament will not start otherwise !!
5.if we have selected the engine:We give names to the book and klick ok ! very easy !

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6.We repeat this until all 5 engines with his book are installed !

Step3.We begin with the tournament preparation
1.klick on File
2.Klick on NEW
3.Klick on TOURNAMENT !!!!!!!!!

Many here already make the first error !

Do not klick on: ENGINE Match !!!!
under engine Match their book will not learn and you can not play round robin !!!
Auto Learn is "disabled" under option Match.Remember this !!!

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have you klick on engine tournament now open a window.
here now you give your tournament a name and klick on save.

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Have you klick on save:
now open a new window.
Now they do the following:
1.invite all participants.they then appear automatically in the left window
2.klick on edit.
now they must be very carefully !!
configure them separately each participant!!

not forget: hush,tablebases,engine parameter and the Book with his Optimize !!

3.give them time to play

4.not forget this option:klick on Book learning !!!!!

5.number of rounds

6.Klick on round robin

7.klick on run and the tournament begins.

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Good Luck..

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Last edited by Guido.M on Sat Sep 03, 2011 7:43 am; edited 2 times in total

on Sat Sep 03, 2011 7:01 pm by · on Sat Sep 03, 2011 7:01 pm by

Very nice explaining Guido.M

on Wed Oct 05, 2011 5:16 am by · on Wed Oct 05, 2011 5:16 am by

I asked to be number 4 was not clear to me ....... I thank you so podeio tournament

on Wed Oct 05, 2011 5:31 am by · on Wed Oct 05, 2011 5:31 am by

@hunter3 wrote:I asked to be number 4 was not clear to me ....... I thank you so podeio tournament

Number 4 ist Book Learning.
it means : the book will learn from win and losses.
movements have led to a victory are played more often,it is like a memory.
bad movements are avoided !

my experience on ChessBase server is:
after 20-25 games,the book developed slowly until its full strength.

on Wed Oct 05, 2011 5:33 am by · on Wed Oct 05, 2011 5:33 am by

Do you have to be in the COMP BASE Is it wrong if we make the tournament DATA BASE? THANK YOU!

on Wed Oct 05, 2011 5:37 am by · on Wed Oct 05, 2011 5:37 am by

When you load the engine is not loaded for the tournament as BELOW NORMAL-NIEDRIGER? On a forum am read that Robert recommended a 1.5a for Houdini to be loaded as BELOW NORMAL. How do I upload Houidni 2.0 for the tournament?

on Wed Oct 05, 2011 5:54 am by · on Wed Oct 05, 2011 5:54 am by

@hunter3 wrote:Do you have to be in the COMP BASE Is it wrong if we make the tournament DATA BASE? THANK YOU!

When you start/create a Tournament:
it will automatically create a Database in Folder "Comp Base"
Before the Tournament start,give the Database a name ! look at picture no3 !
In this Database:All games will be stored by the tournament.

Houdini is automatically loaded when you start with Option "Normal"
you not change anything !!

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on Wed Oct 05, 2011 6:06 am by · on Wed Oct 05, 2011 6:06 am by

Thanks

on Wed Oct 05, 2011 2:38 pm by · on Wed Oct 05, 2011 2:38 pm by

Ok... This is a PLUS to the instruction above: exclaim

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1- To invite engine to the tournament (see step 4 for details )

2- Edit to modify the engine who invite (set up, opening book.... )

3- To use the same opening book for all engine in the tournament

4- Invite human if you or your friends want to play in the tournament against engine (or against each other )

5- To delete an engine that you selected

6- To use the same Hash for all engine during the tournament

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1- choose your engine

2- choose your book, once you chose your book the name book is the right side here perfectv9.0.ctg ... If you didn 't chose a book you see No Book

3- opening different option (take a look at opening book help)

4- Uci engine option

5- If the engine could use EGTB or not during the tournament, if yes check Use tablebases

6- Hashtable size ... don 't put too much for blitz 64 or 128 Mo are enough under 10 mn games

7- The engine estimate Elo if you know :-)

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1- Choose your time control for all engine for the game mn + s increment or give a fix time .

2- How many times the same tournament

3- Move limit to not go over ... here 400,500,600 moves are more than enough

4- permanent brain or not (note : permanent brain on single cpu is bad for eng tournament, on dual cpu this option should be better ) I recommend to not use it for single cpu

5- If you want start games from a given position ( French, English ,Bird, Ruy Lopez ....)

6- if your opening book learning is put on or not .

7- Choose the kind of tournament you would like they play

8- If engine should alternate color or not (exemple in an single eng vs eng tournament both engine will alternate and play with white and black , or if you prefer to put the same engine play white for 100 games .... )

9- Click to begin the engine tournament and you are done :-D

10- next human game ... In case you add yourself to play

11- to see results/scores and cross table.

SOME ADVICES:

- on single cpu , don't use the computer during the tournament ... (on dual cpu should be ok with multi task cpu)

- Don't put too much hash for the engine and for the Egtb

- make back up of all your original opening books. (you never know )

- You could stop a tournament and hours later continue the same tournament with open existing tournament and run/continue

- if you want to follow the results (to see what engine is winning or losing) just click on cross table .

-If you want to publish your results on your website click on publish ...your website name and folders to put it ... user and password .

on Thu Oct 20, 2011 10:15 am by · on Thu Oct 20, 2011 10:15 am by

I have a problem.
I copied Houdini.
My original Houdini is Houdini_20_Pro_w32.exe
My copy is Houdini_20_Pro_w32a.exe
When I want to create an Uci Engine in Fritz 10, I can’t create it because I can’t change the name in the Dialogue Box.
And I have “Houdini 2.0 Pro w32 already exists”
If I try to do the same with CB 11, I have no problem.

on Thu Oct 20, 2011 10:20 am by · on Thu Oct 20, 2011 10:20 am by

you need to save the copy in another folder (no need to renamed now), than you should be able to to create another UCI with a different name.

on Thu Oct 20, 2011 10:39 am by · on Thu Oct 20, 2011 10:39 am by

I changed the folder but I have always this problem.
I can't rename :sm011:

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on Thu Oct 20, 2011 10:54 am by · on Thu Oct 20, 2011 10:54 am by

it seems a problem of GUI 10... i do not have it anymore installed... sorry...

on Sat Oct 29, 2011 6:38 pm by · on Sat Oct 29, 2011 6:38 pm by

@Guido.M wrote:
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Hi Guido.

Does this renaming "trick" work with Houdini 2.0?

With the introduction of version 2.0 the engine needs to be registrated for full strength.
With you're method only the original installed version is registered the others aren't (I guess).

Hope you can help me out with this (or someone else).

on Sat Oct 29, 2011 6:49 pm by · on Sat Oct 29, 2011 6:49 pm by

Hi Guido.
Does this renaming "trick" work with Houdini 2.0?
yes 100%

With the introduction of version 2.0 the engine needs to be registrated for full strength.
100% correctly

With you're method only the original installed version is registered the others aren't (I guess).
you have to make copies of the registered motor.
this copies run with 100% strength on your PC !!!

on Sat Oct 29, 2011 7:23 pm by · on Sat Oct 29, 2011 7:23 pm by

Houdini2.0bPro x64arilovsku

Houdini2.0bPro x64-arilovsku

Can this sign (-) to create a problem? Menu is uploaded FritzGUI engines .... but when the tournament shows the error. I placed between Houdini-2.0bx64 openinbook

?

- ?

on Sat Oct 29, 2011 7:38 pm by · on Sat Oct 29, 2011 7:38 pm by

@hunter3 wrote:Houdini2.0bPro x64arilovsku
Houdini2.0bPro x64-arilovsku

Can this sign (-) to create a problem? Menu is uploaded FritzGUI engines .... but when the tournament shows the error. I placed between Houdini-2.0bx64 openinbook

?
- ?

if you use Houdini2.0bPro x64.
you must not use the following character
. , - ´ + = ! " § $ % & / ( ) ?

watch out for the following:
not bookname may be longer than 9 letters !
no interruption in the book names and no blank !

example:
do not write - Arilovsu9.8 !
write only - Arilovsu !

do not write - D.Penalty !
write - Dpenalty or DPenalty !

There is a trick as you can see only the name of the book.
the motor name disappears.
Sedat Canbaz mastered this method.
He showed it to me but I have not yet understood 100% lol

it is very complicated.
I hope I can do it soon.

on Sat Oct 29, 2011 7:50 pm by · on Sat Oct 29, 2011 7:50 pm by

@Guido.M wrote:
With you're method only the original installed version is registered the others aren't (I guess).[/b]
you have to make copies of the registered motor.
this copies run with 100% strength on your PC !!!

Thanks for you're explanation Guido. I will try this ...

(This implicates that the "Houdini_20_Pro_x64.exe" is altered during installation.
So every installed "Houdini_20_Pro_x64.exe" is probably unique.)

on Sat Oct 29, 2011 7:58 pm by · on Sat Oct 29, 2011 7:58 pm by

Thank you! I slept two nights because of Houdini-b! Houdini Standard / Pro is accepted (-)

on Tue Sep 08, 2020 4:16 pm by · on Tue Sep 08, 2020 4:16 pm by

Does the same apply to Fritz 17?

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