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All online players search mapanare book. I hear this is very strong book. Who can provide this link ?

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friend this book is for private use. :sm92:

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I see that this is private. But how we players can find it ? may be someone sell it ?

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duda
The best books in SCCT VII Book Tournament 2010
http://ahmed-chess.forumotion.com/chess-opening-books-room-f4/scct-vii-book-tournament-2010-t521-15.htm
hope this helps

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Thanks. I knew thees books.
But do you know how find Mapanare 1.0a ?

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hi duda, I am the autor of Mapanare 1.0a and now 2.0 version. Unfortunately all my books are private due to avoid clone. My books as bombook 2.3 and poison were cloned by a rusian people named Dvejok who made some cloned books. For that reason I decided not publish anymore to the public.

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jeandis. thanks for answer. I am from Georgia, 42 years old man. Director one sportsbook company.I like chess very much.Chess is my life. Have all programs, engines, ctg books.
I search men looks like you and think that we can be friends. From me you only get kindness. I can give you my skype, you can see that I am individual serouse man and you will not get any bad things from me. I am interested to have online friend who is fan of chess, who love chess, and who is clean man. I think you will not say no and we shall be very very good friends.
KInd Regards
Duda

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jeandis

Which opening books can you tell me, which are very very strong

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Duda, an old and good book has been uptown 2.1 but it is necessary now to update it. Also very interesting book is Stark 2.3 (it seem that one stronger than 2.4 and 2.5). Eros riccio made good books too but now private. Kosmodromo made good books as 22.1 version but now his books are deficient (Antimaster version).

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Thanks jeandis. I have Uptown 2.1 and I like it very much. I think that this is one of the strongest books.
Also, may be you will teach me how make books ctg. you can make it by skype. chess for me is everything and if you teach me may be I shall make also strong book ? who knows ?
Kind Regards
duda

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jeandis, what you say about book Hitman 5.2 ?

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hitman 5.2 is private and it is an excellent book which won the VII sedat tournament. Some people made an hitman 5.2 with only 249 Kb corresponding to its games of the sedat tournament.

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so, jeandis, Hitman 5.2 which is on this website (I have downloaded from here) is not real Hitman 5.2 ? Oh how I am sad...
Hitman 5.2
Mapanare 2.0a
I want these books. I do not give them to anyone.This my word as Caucasian man's word. In caucasus every times word was with very high price. I am Georgian and can keep my word.
Jeandis, please, help me.
KInd Regards
duda

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for Duda and others who are interesting to make some book.ctg

Re: Making Book ctg

Postby goldminer999 » 18 Sep 2008 09:34
Try following these steps which I've described as clearly as I possible can. Try it a few times and you'll get the hang of it:

1. Start with a database of games that you want to use to make your book.

2. Create a new book in Fritz by selecting FILE/NEW/OPENINGS BOOK - call it anything you like.

3. Open your new book by selecting FILE/OPEN/OPENINGS BOOK and selecting the new book you created earlier.

4. Now import the games from your database by selecting EDIT/OPENINGS BOOK/IMPORT GAMES and navigating to your database.

5. There is a dialogue box which you need to tick against. "Games" is the number of games you want to import. Default is all games are selected so leave this. "Length" is how deep the lines will be in the book. Choosing "ECO-relative" plus a number will make the main line variations longer than the oddball side variations. If you pick "Absolute length" and a number, it will make all the variations the length you chose, regardless of whether the variation is a main line or side line - so book will be deeper. "Include variations" is important if some of the games from your database contain commentary in the form of sub-variations, but can be left un-ticked.

6. When you're finished with these settings, click "OK". You'll see a progress bar appear, keeping you posted as to how close Fritz has come to completing the, you'll see a menu of moves where the empty book had been and a small window saying "x new positions" (this tells you how many positions total are in the new tree). Click OK, and you're finished.
Try it a few times and you'll get the hang of it.

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o may be making book.ctg by Nielsen :

By Dagh Nielsen

Let me try to give a brief introduction to book making and tuning, as it applies to the Chessbase CTG books.

There are essentially 4 components in making/tuning a book:

* Choosing and importing games to the book.
* Choosing which openings/lines to play by coloring red and green.
* Expanding the book by manually adding green moves to the lines you have chosen to play (or maybe by "adding priority analysis" or games).
* Adjusting the weights of moves, often done automaticly through play on the playchess.com server,but can also be done manually.


Any combination of these 4 can be applied by the book-maker to reach a desired result.

The very basic behaviour of any opening book is that it recognizes a position and decides that it will tell which move to play, instead of letting the engine decide. The task of the book-maker is to decide in which positions he wants the book to make that decision, and to make sure that the book makes a good decision.

Very obvious, but there's several ways to go about it, since different parameters in the book determine how it makes those decisions. You would want to play around with these parameters so they match your general approach - what parts of 1-4 above do you use, and where do you put in most of your efforts. Also, what are the playing conditions, etc.

The parameters are:

* "Tournament book" - I think it is essential to turn this ON, or your color marking will not have any effect as far as I understand.
* "Variety of play" - Should book only play move with the best stat, or also try others?
* "Influence of learn value" - This concerns the weights associated to the moves. If you play on server, and a move gives some bad results and thus gets a negative weight, then the book will tend to avoid this move if you put this parameter in the high end.
* "Learning strength" - How fast do you want the weights to be changed? One bad result or several bad (good) results are needed before the weight of a move changes a lot?
* "Minimum games" - how many times does a move need to be "played" in your book (based on the imported games) before the book will consider the stats of the moves in order to reach a decision?


And then one of the most important "parameters" in my view: Move coloring. If you make a move green, a higher preference is given to this move. If you color a move red (and at least one other move in the position is green), the book will not make this move.

Before going on to some practical hints and considerations, just one general remark: How would YOU determine the success of your opening book? This can be answered in as many ways as there are book makers, and I think it is sensible to think about it once in a while while you work on your book. Is blitz Elo on playchess server your success criteria (or maybe only slow game Elo?)? Do you find it funny to make weird lines work out OK? Do you want a broad book playing "everything", or do you want a narrow book focusing on a few pet lines?

Fun can be had in many ways, and while I also find it very funny to compete on Elo, it is certainly also funny sometimes to give yourself a few personal challenges, like, "I really want this crazy gambit to work out OK", or, "I want my book to know this opening to depth 30 in all lines!", or whatever. My point is, success (and fun!) is how YOU define it, not ONLY Elo.

OK, some practical hints and considerations:

* Most people agree that the decision on which games to base your book on is quite important. They should be high quality Smile Once they are in, there's sadly no way getting them out. I think one good approach is using a collection of recent high level games from the playchess server. These games have been played by engines using already very strong books.
* One can also take some already made (by another person) book, and use this as basis for further tweaking/expansion (for personal use only ). For example, the Rybka book by Jeroen Noomen and the Takker TourbookII are quite strong, but some lines are not really covered by these. Instead, one could use a more broad book like for example the Fritz 9 book as start. Either way, the advantage of this approach is that then one can focus on a few pet lines and improve them, while your book is also covered reasonably well in lines you do not care to work further on. But in the end, I think most people will want to make their own book from scratch Smile There is also a chance that this will give higher diversity on the playchess server.
* By choosing a good base of games, you are already on your way to a fine book. You can then let it play a lot of server games in order to tune the weights, and you will have a fine book in the end.
HOWEVER! You will only get so far doing this. To further improve your book (and make it more personal!), you need to get some dirt under your nails Smile This means analysing played games, or variations you want your engine to play, and then expand the book in these lines by adding green moves.
And maybe choosing which variations/moves NOT to play by marking these moves red. Improving your book in this way is an endless task, but also where all the fun lies IMHO Smile You can ALWAYS further improve your book by doing some work in your personal analysis laboratory.
* In Fritz 9, you can choose some keyboard shortcuts for coloring moves under "tools - customize".
This can save you a lot of time and frustration.
* Parameters - There are as many preferred ways to combine these as there are bookmakers. I suggest playing around with them so they fit your CURRENT task. To make an analogy, Magnus Carlsen and his trainer for some time defined success as how much Magnus learned, and not the score on the tournament table. Likewise, for some time, you can "experiment" with new lines and choose loose parameters, and maybe later, when you have drawn some conclusions from the games and added some analysed moves and you are satisfied with the result, you can go back to some "bests of the bestests setting".
* Go and kibbitz some games in the engine room on the playchess server. They will get added automaticly to one of your databases. You can then either import these into your book, or just use them as inspiration for further manual research. Some people on the server are paranoid about kibbitzers following them and thus learning all their secrets Smile Well, I really have no opinion on this, and I understand the pros and cons. I don't know if it would be a good idea if they made a "no kibbitzers" playing mode.
* Maybe get some good friends on the server and exchange games with them. Not all people are too paranoid, or maybe you just want to conspire with others and help justify the paranoia.


At any rate, have fun book-cooking and competing! And in a few years time when you have grown exhausted from this, maybe we can meet in normal playing room and have a good old-fashioned game of human blitz Very Happy.

Enjoy!!!

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good job Jeandis !!!!! Thanks a lot !!!!!

here you described technology of making ctg book. But matches. Where take matches. Also I need strategy as I understood correct. Strategy of openings of my book. Which openings I need, and matches about these openings.Am I correct ? And where I can find matches from where I can take some of them by my strategy....
Kind Regards
Duda

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Thanks jeandis!!

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!gracias¡ por el aporte
el book de los juegos del torneo tambien esta muy bueno :bom:

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kariconejito
again, please in English

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Mapanare ctg. book is the best book against any engine. It is the strongest book!!!!!

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@duda wrote:
Mapanare ctg. book is the best book against any engine. It is the strongest book!!!!!


do u have the book .........if possible plz make it public thus we can use....

thanx..

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It is private book and withour author nobody can make it public. Sorry

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@duda wrote:
It is private book and withour author nobody can make it public. Sorry



:sm86:

thanx for the information.

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If u can plz help me.......Which book is strongest with houdini 1.5 32bit.2 core

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every books are good :
rybka 4 ctg.
Sambuca 2.3 ctg.
Ahmed ctg.
Antimaster 8
Stark 2.5 ctg.
and many others.
But, 32 bit computer with 32 bit engine is not so strong then 64 bit comp and 64 bit engine. If you want that your program was very very strong you don't need only book. you need :
1) Strong engine - deep rybka 4 , Houdini 1.5
2) Good opening book
3) and main very strong computer with 64 bit windows.

If you will play with 32 bit against 64 bit no chance. That's why you need strong computer, strong engine, strong book and your program will be super!!!
Good Luck and many wins!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

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