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pollwhat is your favoritely used engine for practice?

Zotron
1
11%
Needle
0
0%
Damas
0
0%
Larsen VB
3
33%
cefap
1
11%
St Andersen
0
0%
Roque
1
11%
Nero
1
11%
Numpty Omega
2
22%
Total Votes:
9

descriptionplaying chess with computer Emptyplaying chess with computer

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it is not easy to practice chess matches
it is difficult to do it with human opponents
but it is still not easy to do it with engines

for many average ppl
engines up there should be good for practice
(equal or similar in strength with many humans)

but here is a challenge when choosing an engine or a chess opponent for practice that is not human

I chose many powerful engines then I tried to scale down their strengths by using the meter

it doesn't work nicely or as I intended or as I wanted it to be

it's not easy to find the desirable elo strength by scaling down

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so they best way is to find an engine that is close to your strength when the engine is playing with full strength

but for many ppl, the desired elo is 1500~1600 and
most of those engines were created 10 years ago or so



nowadays ppl don't use winboard protocol but back then
those engines were made with WB protocol

now if we want to get those engines for practice
for many engines, the websites are discontinued or down
so we usually can't find those engines

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even if we find the engine
those engines are riddled with problems
they are not perfect like UCI based engines

for many WB engines
they don't support undo which is probably the most important feature
in learning of chess or playing chess

so for many WB engines
you can't do undo function
if you are really good, you can finish a match without even one undoing
but mostly we you will want something like undo for sure

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and many don't have other necessary functions which are vital for chess playing and learning chess

cefap demas needle have been my favorite
especially demas is challenging enough and powerful enough
these are beautifully made and powerfully challenging for many ppl I guess thumb up thumb up


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update:


[Event "Computer Chess Game"]
[Site "USER01"]
[Date "2013.10.02"]
[Round "-"]
[White "admin"]
[Black "1500-1600"]
[Result "1-0"]
[TimeControl "60/60"]
[Annotator "4... -0.36"]

1. d4 Nf6 2. Nf3 e6 3. Nc3 d5 4. e3 Bb4 {-0.36/5 1.0} 5. Bd2 Bxc3
{-0.48/5 1.1} 6. Bxc3 Ne4 {+0.00/5 1.1} 7. Qd3 Nc6 {-0.53/5 1.1} 8. a3 Bd7
{-0.72/5 1.0} 9. Be2 Qe7 {-0.15/5 1.1} 10. O-O O-O-O {-0.09/4 1.0} 11. b4
a6 {-0.06/5 1.0} 12. Bb2 Rhe8 {-0.11/4 1.1} 13. Nd2 Nxd2 {-0.16/5 1.0} 14.
Qxd2 f5 {-0.12/5 1.0} 15. c4 dxc4 {-0.22/5 1.0} 16. Bxc4 e5 {-0.18/4 1.0}
17. dxe5 Nxe5 {-0.28/5 1.0} 18. Bxe5 Qxe5 {-0.28/5 1.0} 19. Qe2 f4
{-0.31/5 1.0} 20. Rfe1 fxe3 {-0.43/5 1.0} 21. Qxe3 Qxa1 {-0.80/5 1.0} 22.
Rxa1 Rxe3 {-0.62/7 1.0} 23. fxe3 Bf5 {-0.57/6 1.1} 24. Rf1 g6 {-0.55/6 1.0}
25. b5 a5 {-0.54/6 1.0} 26. Re1 Be4 {-0.46/6 1.0} 27. g4 Rd2 {-1.04/6 1.0}
28. Re2 Rd1+ {-1.16/6 1.0} 29. Kf2 Rh1 {-1.05/6 1.0} 30. Kg3 g5
{-0.96/6 1.0} 31. Be6+ Kb8 {+0.05/7 1.0} 32. Bf5 Bd5 {-0.30/7 1.1} 33. e4
Bc4 {-1.36/6 1.1} 34. Rb2 Rg1+ {-0.80/6 1.1} 35. Kf2 Rf1+ {-0.50/6 1.1} 36.
Kg2 h6 {-0.15/6 1.1} 37. b6 Ra1 {-0.40/6 1.1} 38. bxc7+ Kxc7 {-0.60/7 1.0}
39. Rc2 b5 {-0.30/7 1.1} 40. e5 Rxa3 {-1.15/6 1.0} 41. e6 Kb6 {-1.55/6 1.1}
42. Kf2 Rh3 {-1.70/6 1.1} 43. Rxc4 Rxh2+ {+1.00/7 1.1} 44. Kg3 Re2
{+1.00/7 1.0} 45. Re4 Rxe4 {+1.00/8 1.0} 46. Bxe4 Kc7 {+1.00/8 1.4} 47. Kf3
Kd6 {+0.90/8 1.5} 48. Bd5 a4 {+0.85/8 1.5} 49. Ke3 b4 {+0.60/8 1.5} 50. Kd2
b3 {+0.50/8 1.6} 51. Kc1 Ke7 {+0.80/8 1.6} 52. Kb2 Kd6 {+1.80/9 1.6} 53.
Bc4 Ke7 {+1.85/8 1.7} 54. Bb5 Kxe6 {+1.65/9 1.7} 55. Bxa4 Kd6 {+1.70/9 1.9}
56. Bxb3 Ke5 {+1.75/5} 57. Kc3 Ke4 {+1.75/3 0.1} 58. Bd1 Kf4 {+1.65/5} 59.
Kd4 Kg3 {+1.85/5 0.1} 60. Ke5 Kf2 {+1.90/5} 61. Kf5 Ke1 {+2.85/8 1.1} 62.
Kg6 Kxd1 {+1.10/12 1.1} 63. Kxh6 Ke2 {+1.10/10 1.1} 64. Kxg5
{Black resigns} 1-0



I just played with a computer that is about 1500~1600 elo strong
TC for engine was 1 move per sec
and I spent more than 40 minutes
I won as white
it was neck and neck in the beginning and the middle
but in the ending
I did some bishop & pawn combinational moves to win
this is such a brain teaser and not easy! thumb up thumb up 

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engine's elo is around 1500


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the highlights and key points of the match:


I played with black
playing with black is not easy
so I was trailing behind thru most of the beginning and middle phase

but I regained control in the ending
since humans are good in the ending positionally

in the middle
I made a decision and I did a trade-off

I lost 1 pawn, 1 rook = 6.0
to gain 1 bishop, 1 knight = 6.0

so it was a match between
a brute calculating force and positionally play


***


meditation & analysis:


when there is a tricky position to solve for the engine
(when the engine is not super strong, but around 1500)
whence the board position becomes to tricky for an engine to solve
humans can lead the match!

10 years ago
I was better calculating with more plies in advance before
but now the search depth became lowered perhaps

but during the 10 years
I watched countless number of best Vs. best matches

so I gained so much knowledge on positionally play
so I can do the positionally play better!
and I learned much chess strategies and tactics!
such as combo moves
combinational moves of 2, 3, 4 pieces together
in defence and in attack
but it's not easy to employ those tactics
and apply those learned when playing against computers!


computer was winning most of the time
but I made a tie in score after 25 moves then
after 37 moves,
I was leading by the score of 2.75!

after 38 moves,
I lead the match with the score of 5.05

I won only after 40 moves or so with black!


***


[Event "Computer Chess Game"]
[Site "USER01"]
[Date "2013.10.03"]
[Round "-"]
[White "1500"]
[Black "admin"]
[Result "0-1"]
[TimeControl "60/60"]
[Annotator "1. +0.13"]

1. e4 {+0.13/6} e5 2. Nc3 {+0.40/5 1.0} Nf6 3. Bc4 {+0.35/5 1.1} d6 4. Nf3
{+0.60/5 1.0} Be7 5. O-O {+0.48/5 1.0} O-O 6. d4 {+0.32/5 1.0} Nbd7 7. Be3
{+0.47/5 1.0} exd4 8. Bxd4 {+0.48/5 1.0} a6 9. Ng5 {+0.51/4 1.1} Ne5 10.
Bxe5 {+1.13/5 1.0} dxe5 11. Qxd8 {+1.13/5 1.0} Bxd8 12. Nxf7 {+1.34/5 1.0}
Rxf7 13. Bxf7+ {+1.09/5 1.1} Kxf7 14. Rad1 {+0.88/5 1.0} Ke7 15. Rd2
{+1.29/5 1.0} b5 16. Nd5+ {+1.31/5 1.0} Ke8 17. f3 {+1.15/5 1.1} c6 18.
Nxf6+ {+0.94/6 1.1} gxf6 19. Rfd1 {+0.68/6 1.0} Bb7 20. Re2 {+0.29/5 1.1}
Bb6+ 21. Kh1 {-0.14/6 1.1} Rd8 22. Rf1 {-0.14/6 1.1} h5 23. h3
{+0.11/5 1.1} Ke7 24. Rfe1 {+0.17/5 1.0} c5 25. c3 {+0.17/5 1.1} a5 26. Ra1
{+0.36/5 1.1} b4 27. cxb4 {+0.26/6 1.1} axb4 28. a3 {+0.36/5 1.1} b3 29.
Re3 {+0.24/6 1.1} c4 30. Re2 {+0.09/6 1.0} Ba6 31. g4 {-0.23/6 1.1} c3 32.
Ree1 {-1.00/6 1.0} hxg4 33. hxg4 {-0.95/6 1.1} c2 34. Kg2 {-1.26/6 1.0}
Rd2+ 35. Kh1 {-1.85/6 1.0} Be2 36. Kg2 {-1.96/6 1.0} Rd1 37. g5
{-2.75/6 1.0} fxg5 38. Rh1 {-5.05/6 1.0} Rxh1 39. Rxh1 {-2.05/6 1.0} Be3
40. a4 {-5.10/6 1.0} Bd1
{White resigns} 0-1


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[Event "Computer Chess Game"]
[Site "USER01"]
[Date "2013.10.05"]
[Round "-"]
[White "admin"]
[Black "miniroque12"]
[Result "1-0"]
[TimeControl "60/60"]
[Annotator "3... -0.10"]

1. d4 Nf6 2. Nf3 g6 3. Nc3 d5 {-0.10/5 0.6} 4. e3 Be6 {-0.05/5 1.0} 5. Bd3
Nbd7 {-0.10/5 2.5} 6. O-O c5 {+0.05/5 4} 7. dxc5 Nxc5 {+0.05/5 1.3} 8. Bb5+
Ncd7 {+0.00/6 1.0} 9. Nd4 a6 {+0.00/4 4} 10. Nxe6 fxe6 {+0.10/6 0.7} 11.
Be2 b5 {+0.20/5 2.1} 12. a4 b4 {+0.20/5 0.8} 13. Na2 a5 {+0.20/5 0.6} 14.
c3 Rb8 {+0.10/6 3} 15. cxb4 axb4 {-0.80/6 1.7} 16. Bb5 Qa5 {-0.80/6 1.5}
17. Qd4 b3 {+0.00/6 1.5} 18. Qb4 Qxb4 {+0.10/7 1.2} 19. Nxb4 Ne4
{+0.00/6 2.8} 20. Ra3 Nc5 {-0.70/6 0.4} 21. Rd1 Bg7 {+0.10/5 1.6} 22. Nd3
Kd8 {+0.05/6 0.5} 23. Nf4 Be5 {+0.25/5 0.6} 24. Nd3 Nxd3 {+0.25/6 0.7} 25.
Rxd3 Nc5 {+0.30/6 0.6} 26. Rd1 g5 {+0.30/5 1.4} 27. g3 g4 {+0.40/5 0.4} 28.
e4 Nxe4 {+0.45/6 1.7} 29. Rxb3 Rf8 {+0.45/5 1.0} 30. Be3 Kc7 {+0.45/5 0.5}
31. Rc1+ Kd8 {+0.00/6 1.8} 32. Rc6 Nd6 {+0.45/5 2.5} 33. Bb6+ Kd7
{+0.00/7 0.8} 34. Rc7+ Kd8 {+0.00/7 0.6} 35. Rb7+ Kc8 {-0.70/7 0.4} 36.
Rxb8+ Kxb8 {-0.70/7 1.2} 37. Bd7 Ne4 {-0.70/6 1.0} 38. Bxe6 Nd2
{-1.90/5 0.3} 39. Rb5 Nf3+ {-2.00/6 0.7} 40. Kg2 Ne1+ {-1.95/6 0.6} 41. Kf1
Nf3 {-2.05/6 0.4} 42. Kg2 Ne1+ {+0.00/7 0.9} 43. Kf1 Nf3 {+0.00/7 0.5} 44.
Bxd5 Bd6 {-2.05/6 0.5} 45. Bxf3 gxf3 {-1.95/6 0.3} 46. Bc5+ Kc7
{-1.95/7 0.5} 47. Bxd6+ exd6 {-1.90/7 0.5} 48. Rb3 d5 {-1.85/7 0.8} 49. h4
h5 {-1.85/6 0.4} 50. Re3 Kc6 {-1.85/6 0.3} 51. b4 Kd6 {-1.85/7 0.3} 52. Rc3
Ke6 {-1.85/7 0.3} 53. b5 Kd6 {-1.85/7 0.3} 54. a5 Ke6 {-1.85/7 0.3} 55. b6
Ke5 {-1.85/7 0.6} 56. a6 Kd4 {-5.30/6 0.7} 57. Rc6 Kd3 {-6.80/6 0.4} 58. b7
Rb8 {-9.30/6 0.7} 59. Rc8 Kd4 {-15.45/8 0.5} 60. Rxb8 Ke4 {-16.35/7 0.5}
61. a7 Ke5 {-24.95/8 2.0} 62. a8=Q Ke4 {-25.85/7 1.1} 63. Re8+ Kd4
{-99.94/6 0.2} 64. b8=Q Kc4 {-99.96/4} 65. Qa4+ Kc3 {-99.96/4} 66. Qe5+ Kd3
{-99.98/2} 67. Qe3#
{Xboard adjudication: Checkmate} 1-0




match results and analysis:


the engine's rating is about 1500 or so


at the start
I as white couldn't progress pawns
even if I was trying the best to push pawns a lot
the com overwhelmed me at the beginning

I was both being aggressive in attack and safe-playing in defence


***


after 16 moves or so

I started the attack of pawns
I didn't push pawns in front of my king
to safely guard the king
and not to disturb king's safty

but instead
I wanted to push pawns on the queen's side
as much as I could

so pawn & bishop combinational moves were placed
and they were in effect



***


and from the move number 34

there are some small tactics and big strategies


smaller scale tactics were like
the combo attacks of 2 bishops, 1 rook and 1 advancing pawn


and as for the strategies
the bigger picture was
to distract and lower opponent's king's safty

it kind of worked reasonably

also one of the big picture was
making the foundation for the 2 pawns to advance
mainly by trade-offs of pieces

I only did trade offs with the com when it is better for me
when it is in my advantage


***


as we can see from the pgn
the thing is the com plays like 1600 at the start and in the middle
but the com plays like 1200 in the ending thumb up thumb up 

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I had a plethora of matches against computers


match analysis and meditation:


I played with elo of 1500 like cefap
and I employed lots of tactics
and I made tactical moves like combinational attack and defense

but this time around
the opponent is like 1600 that is stronger than cefap
so it should be difficult to go head-to-head with 1600

so instead of making use of combo moves and such tactics

my new tactic was to advance pawns as much as I can

I tried to push pawns a lot at the extreme
cuz when the match is settled
and when the round reaches its ending

the if I advanced many pawns and then
I can play positionally to win the match


***


I think the opening book was used only for the first move or so

after 12 moves
com was winning by 0.99 point

after 16 moves
com was winning by 1.09 point

after 20 moves
com was winning by 1.28 point

in terms of material
com had 1 more pawn...

***

after 22 moves
com could push pawns freely and easily to win in
columns b, c

***

after 23 moves
com was winning by 4.52 point

so I gave up the match

the problem was
I advanced pawns so much
and the king safety was in bad shape

so this time
I'll play with more traditional style


***
***


round 2:

queen's gambit
and then declined

but, I changed my tactic midway

I thought I was gonna play with more conservative style
but I changed the tactic a liittle bit

I'll play defensively and conservatively
but I'll advance pawns a lot as much as I can

on the queens' side

so the king safety will be okay


***


after 12 moves
com was losing by 0.27 point

but the situation was a inexplicable bottleneck
I had no choice but to advance pawns in front of the castled king

***

after 22 moves
we exchanged the queens

queen trade succeeded after cat and mouse persuing

in my opinion, com becomes easier to play against
when we trade queens

***

colume b is open
that should be the attacking route

the center of the board is traditionally the important place
but the center is blocked and jammed
so we are playing on the side
which should be regarded as less important place on the board


***

after 39moves
com was winning by 1.12point

after 43moves
com was winning by1.37 point

and I had 2 knights
and com had 2 bishops

the situation looked better for com


after 60moves
com was winning by 7.33point


***


roque21
Darky 0.5d
damas7c
miniroque12
CEFAP 0.72


roque21 is too strong to beat

I will play against Darky 0.5d instead


***


I gave up in 21 moves against Darky 0.5d


***


I played with damas 9 years ago
and I got some draws
but when I reminisce about the matches with damas 9
I think I never won
I never had a win

but this time around

I'm playing against damas 7c which should be easier


***


against damas 7c

queens' gambit
and then accepted

so far 20 moves passed
and I could sense that roque 2.1 was harder than damas 7c


***


even if I tried various tactics
they are of no use against the strong damas

so the only tactic I could do was trading and trading again and again


it was neck and neck, toe to toe until 36 moves

on 47th move
I made a difficult decision and
sacrificed a pawn

and after 50th move
I could get a tie if I want

after 53rd move
I had some options
I could sacrifice a knight or a pawn

***

so far I sacrificed a lot and many times
(to advance a pawn)
not cuz I'm a good tactician
but cuz I simply sacrificed some pieces to gain better positions
and to gain advantage in terms of position
and to do positional play

***

on 70th move
I was leading by 2.02 point
and I will win for the first time against damas
even if the version # is not 9
the version is only 7c

this match is probably the best match and the most well played match by me
(it involved like 2 sacrificial plays)
(I turned a match that was a draw into a winning match)
(and I never won against damas)

during the whole ending phase of this match
it looked like
there is no way for me to win
(but I can easily make a draw)

but I thought about the positions deeply and then
finally I will win

***

I thought I was gonna win but I couldn't win but I got a draw
but at least I was winning the match until it became a draw


[Event "Computer Chess Game"]
[Site "USER01"]
[Date "2013.10.08"]
[Round "-"]
[White "admin"]
[Black "damas7c"]
[Result "1/2-1/2"]
[TimeControl "60/60"]
[Annotator "2... +0.65"]

1. d4 d5 2. c4 dxc4 {+0.65/6 4} 3. e4 Nc6 {+0.49/6 4} 4. d5 Ne5 {+0.33/6 4}
5. f4 Bg4 {+0.49/6 3} 6. Nf3 Bxf3 {+0.85/6 3} 7. gxf3 Nd3+ {+0.66/6 3} 8.
Bxd3 cxd3 {+0.66/6 2.7} 9. Qxd3 c6 {+0.57/6 2.4} 10. Nc3 e6 {+0.67/6 2.3}
11. Ke2 exd5 {+0.87/6 2.1} 12. exd5 cxd5 {+0.75/6 2.0} 13. Qxd5 Qxd5
{+0.95/6 1.8} 14. Nxd5 O-O-O {+0.75/6 1.6} 15. Rd1 Rd6 {+0.55/6 1.6} 16. b3
Rh6 {+1.23/5 1.4} 17. Rh1 Rh5 {+1.08/5 1.3} 18. Ne3 f6 {+0.90/5 1.3} 19. h4
Bc5 {+1.03/5 1.2} 20. Ng2 Bd4 {+1.20/6 1.1} 21. Rb1 Ra5 {+1.08/6 1.0} 22.
a4 Ne7 {+0.67/5 0.9} 23. Bb2 Bb6 {+1.05/5 0.9} 24. Rbc1+ Nc6 {+1.10/4 0.8}
25. Rhe1 Rd5 {+1.10/5 0.7} 26. Rcd1 Rc5 {+0.98/5 0.7} 27. Rc1 Re8+
{+0.99/5 0.7} 28. Kf1 Rxc1 {+0.99/6 0.6} 29. Bxc1 Rd8 {+1.06/6 0.6} 30. Be3
Bxe3 {+0.95/6 0.4} 31. Rxe3 Kd7 {+1.05/5 0.4} 32. Rd3+ Ke6 {+0.90/6 0.4}
33. Rxd8 Nxd8 {+0.84/7 0.4} 34. Ke2 Nc6 {+0.78/6 0.3} 35. Kd3 Kf5
{+0.83/6 0.4} 36. h5 b6 {+0.81/6 0.3} 37. Kc3 a6 {+0.84/6 0.3} 38. Kd3 b5
{+0.79/6 0.2} 39. axb5 axb5 {+0.79/7 0.4} 40. Kc3 Ke6 {+0.79/6 0.2} 41. Kd3
f5 {+0.78/6 0.2} 42. Ne3 Nb4+ {+0.68/6 0.2} 43. Kd4 h6 {+0.65/6 0.2} 44.
Kc5 Nd3+ {+0.94/7 0.3} 45. Kxb5 Nxf4 {+0.94/6 0.1} 46. Kc6 Nxh5
{+1.09/6 0.1} 47. b4 Ke5 {+1.24/6 0.1} 48. b5 Nf4 {-0.13/6 0.1} 49. b6 Ne6
{+0.06/6 0.1} 50. Kd7 Nc5+ {+0.84/6 0.1} 51. Kc6 Na6 {+0.81/6 0.1} 52. Kb5
Nb8 {+0.92/6 0.1} 53. b7 Kf4 {+2.10/5 0.1} 54. Nd5+ Kxf3 {+2.30/5 0.1} 55.
Ne7 Ke4 {+1.26/5 0.1} 56. Nc6 Nd7 {+1.26/6 0.1} 57. Ne7 h5 {+1.88/5 0.1}
58. Kc6 Nb8+ {+0.21/5 0.1} 59. Kc7 Na6+ {+0.00/5 0.1} 60. Kb6 Nb8
{+0.00/5 0.1} 61. Ka7 Nd7 {+0.02/10 4} 62. Ng6 Kd5 {+0.02/8 4} 63. Nf8 Ne5
{+0.17/8 4} 64. Kb6 Nc6 {+0.00/8 4} 65. Nd7 Kd6 {+1.87/8 3} 66. Ne5 Nb8
{+1.64/8 3} 67. Ka7 Kc7 {+1.55/9 2.8} 68. Nd3 Nc6+ {+1.92/8 2.6} 69. Ka8
Nb8 {-0.22/8 2.4} 70. Nf4 h4 {-2.02/8 2.2} 71. Ne6+ Kd7 {-2.14/9 2.1} 72.
Kxb8 h3 {-2.46/9 1.9} 73. Nc5+ Ke7 {-8.32/8 1.8} 74. Kc7 h2 {-1.44/8 1.6}
75. b8=Q h1=Q {-1.36/7 1.5} 76. Qd8+ Kf7 {-1.36/5 1.5} 77. Qd7+ Kg6
{-1.29/5 1.3} 78. Qe6+ Kg5 {-1.31/5 1.2} 79. Qe7+ Kg6 {-1.20/5 1.1} 80.
Qe6+ Kg5 {+0.00/7 1.0} 81. Qe7+ Kg6 {+0.00/6 1.0} 82. Qd6+ Kh7
{-1.16/5 0.9} 83. Ne6 Qc1+ {-1.01/5 0.8} 84. Kd7 g5 {-1.05/5 0.8} 85. Qe7+
Kg6 {-1.68/5 0.7} 86. Qg7+ Kh5 {-1.00/5 0.6} 87. Qh7+ Kg4 {-0.90/5 0.7} 88.
Qh2 Qd1+ {-0.90/5 0.5} 89. Ke7 Qe1 {-1.57/5 0.5} 90. Qg2+ Qg3 {-1.59/5 0.6}
91. Qxg3+ Kxg3 {-1.29/8 0.4} 92. Nxg5 f4 {-0.40/8 0.4} 93. Ke6 f3
{-0.40/8 0.3} 94. Nxf3
{Xboard adjudication: Insufficient mating material} 1/2-1/2

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I played chess for dozens of years
but when I play chess
I have to intensively use eyes a lot
there will be no more match between me and engines
but I can still watch engine Vs. engine
which uses eyes mildly

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as you said most of the available freebies do not allow undo a move.then what is your solution. did you find one at last which suits your need. as a common man, i would like to hear from you which software you are using for practice? do you know any software which allows the clock to be stopped so the time out message will not come? i am using arena which does not allow undo and stopping the clock. any suggestions please.

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@sumeshkri wrote:
as you said most of the available freebies do not allow undo a move.then what is your solution. did you find one at last which suits your need. as a common man, i would like to hear from you which software you are using for practice? do you know any software which allows the clock to be stopped so the time out message will not come? i am using arena which does not allow undo and stopping the clock. any suggestions please.



I haven't used Area for so many years
(I only use Area for elostat to calculate elo)
so my memory is fuzzy

other GUIs such as winboard has autoflag
if autoflag is off
even if the time is over
you don't lose

and many WB engines don't support undo
so there's nothing you can do about them

you have to find WB engines that support undo function

I played chess matches and studied chess for a very long time
also I played chess with engines for so many years
but I stopped doing that

so my memory now is a little fuzzy but
I think

Darky 0.5d
roque 2.1
CEFAP 0.72

are the best engines for practice
I think they all support undo and other essential functions
they are about 1600~1700 strong in elo

or you can simply use UCI engines (most of which support undo) then scale their strength down

you can make strong UCI engines weaker
by changing the parameters in the config (setting, option)

but I checked it for the solution asked just now

if you right-click the clock picture in Arena
with right mouse button
it showes a pop up menu

level -> fixed search depth

you can set the depth to something like 6

then what happens is the match condition is not based on time

the match condition is based on searched depth

so you never lose due to time expiration
since there is no time control

so you never have any time problem


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(I think above solutions are 100% perfectly working well)

(I think below solutions should work
but I'm not 100% sure since I didn't test it fully)


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the following could be other solutions


if you right-click the clock picture in Arena
with right mouse button
it showes a pop up menu

clock paused

when you click it, your clock should be paused

adjust clock

you can increase the amount of time you are remained with as much as you want thumb up 

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thanks a lot for the quick reply. only recently i bagan to play chess on the machine elaborately. for the first time i came in contact with arena. earlier i used to play chess using rival chess. in arena i found so many useful things and i began to like more. i searched for the options and found the uncheck the autoflag . and this has done what i needed. now i have no problem as far as the time is consumed.
as you are more experienced in this field, can u give me some more simple instructions as to how to use the engines and how to adopt those in my playing software?

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@sumeshkri wrote:
thanks a lot for the quick reply. only recently i bagan to play chess on the machine elaborately. for the first time i came in  contact with arena. earlier i used to play chess using rival chess. in arena i found so many useful things and i began to like more. i searched for the options and found the uncheck the autoflag . and this has done what i needed. now i have no problem as far as the time is consumed.
as you are more experienced in this field, can u give me some more simple  instructions as to how to use the engines and how to adopt those in my playing software?

as for using the engines
there are so many things as to how to use engines
and engine loading

to give an answer
specific and detailed questions are needed : )

descriptionplaying chess with computer EmptyTry lucaschess. You will enjoy it greatly

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It is possibly the best at playing and learning with computer chess.

http://lucaschess.pusku.com/

And, it is completely free.

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