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mediafire.com download/8fbyaqjsjcsof9c/RpC-Needle-140511-7.bin.rar

Test: https://www.chess2u.com/t8513-3-books-tournament#56122

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good book clap biggrin thumb up 

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@RpC wrote:
Congratulations !!

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@regine1 wrote:
Congratulations !!
Thanks

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I cant download from media, it shows downloading is starting but nothing more, just open na advertising page when i click to download. Mirror pls

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Mirror:
https://www.dropbox.com/s/nb6ju5tos6r7p71/RpC-Needle-140511-7.bin.rar?m=

Last edited by VocalTechnique on Fri May 16, 2014 5:38 am; edited 1 time in total (Reason for editing : [quote omitted])

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Any chance of a ctg version?

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how can i import the bin fle in fritz 13 ?

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@shoken wrote:
how can i import the bin fle in fritz 13 ?


From Talkchess:

HG Muller wrote:

Note that any UCI engine can play with a Polyglot book by using Polyglot as book adapter.


Sedat replied:

Yes,I know...I have tested Houdini with several bin.books (via Polyglot adapter) in previous book tournaments

But however,
In my opinion testing Houdini,Rybka,Gull via Polyglot adapter (under Fritz GUI) is not very good idea

The reasons:
*Not very oftenly,but sometimes i've seen Houdini 2.0 crashes via Polyglot 1.4.67b
*Not sure about the latest release of Houdini 4 (regarding those crashes will appear or not)
*For example,I am afraid to see again crashes by Houdini 4 via Polyglot adapter
*Note also that in case of any polyglot crash...then Houdini and Polyglot exe fles are still in the system process
In other words,the exe files dont terminate...and that can down the performance of the rest book participants
That's why for Houdini,Gull,Rybka (via Polyglot adapter) using bin.books are not allowed

Where Stockfish,Komodo has a superior engine book option to use directly (without via polyglot adaper) a book.bin format
Plus, Polyglot books have a big disadvantage,due to they can not play with Learning Functions ON

Note also (In fast time controls) there is possibility the performance of the engines,
(which are playing via Polyglot adapter) to be effected by using Polyglot adapter



Honestly in my opinion,ctg book formats have more chances to be ranked at one of the TOP places in SCCT book competitions
Due to ctg books have option to learn...

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Thx Vocal for mirror

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You're welcome Waldemar  thumb up

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@Graham Banks wrote:

HG Muller wrote:

Note that any UCI engine can play with a Polyglot book by using Polyglot as book adapter.


Sedat replied:

Yes,I know...I have tested Houdini with several bin.books (via Polyglot adapter) in previous book tournaments

But however,
In my opinion testing Houdini,Rybka,Gull via Polyglot adapter (under Fritz GUI) is not very good idea

The reasons:
*Not very oftenly,but sometimes i've seen Houdini 2.0 crashes via Polyglot 1.4.67b
*Not sure about the latest release of Houdini 4 (regarding those crashes will appear or not)
*For example,I am afraid to see again crashes by Houdini 4 via Polyglot adapter
*Note also that in case of any polyglot crash...then Houdini and Polyglot exe fles are still in the system process
In other words,the exe files dont terminate...and that can down the performance of the rest book participants
That's why for Houdini,Gull,Rybka (via Polyglot adapter) using bin.books are not allowed

Where Stockfish,Komodo has a superior engine book option to use directly (without via polyglot adaper) a book.bin format
Plus, Polyglot books have a big disadvantage,due to they can not play with Learning Functions ON

Note also (In fast time controls) there is possibility the performance of the engines,
(which are playing via Polyglot adapter) to be effected by using Polyglot adapter


Sedat's comments are completely wrong! (sorry, i don't know, who is Sedat? ).

It works perfectly well on my machine (Houdini _ Polyglot _ Fritz13/14).

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D Samuel wrote:
Sedat's comments are completely wrong! (sorry, i don't know, who is Sedat? ).


He posts in both the Talkchess and Rybka forums.
He has been running book tournaments for many years.

http://www.sedatcanbaz.com/chess/?page_id=601

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D Samuel wrote:
It works perfectly well on my machine (Houdini _ Polyglot _ Fritz13/14).

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D Samuel wrote:
D Samuel wrote:
It works perfectly well on my machine (Houdini _ Polyglot _ Fritz13/14).



I'll let Sedat know.

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@Graham Banks wrote:
Any chance of a ctg version?
Not yet planning

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This test done by Vladimir is a proof that the BIN books (polyglot) are still very strong!  thumb up 

Because we have to accept that RPC Needle-140511-7 overcame very strong CTG books! As Blue 4 and Doom 4a !! lol 

Congratulations to the author of this great book!  clap 

I am very happy with this result! bigsmile 

that's why Winboard GUI is my favorite!  undoubtedly my first choice for games, analysis and engine test.  smile 

RpC-Needle-*.bin Scrn-512

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@RpC wrote:


Thank you very much dear RpC. thumb up

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Congrats RpC ! clap

https://www.chess2u.com/t8579-bookswar-9-tournament#56767

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hallo. RpC-Needle-*.bin is not ctg???.i can not instaling book
how using book.pleas help
my book is blue 2
Re: RpC-Needle-*.bin stronger the blue 2 ???

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@houdinirybka wrote:
hallo. RpC-Needle-*.bin is not ctg???.i can not instaling book
how using book.pleas help
my book is blue 2
Re: RpC-Needle-*.bin   stronger the blue 2 ???


I have Fritz GUI, so I'll be telling you instructions based on Fritz, if you have some other GUI, then maybe something will be a little different, but I hope you'll find everything I'm telling you.

If you want to use .bin book, then create New Folder somewhere on your computer. Put your engine and your .bin book inside that folder. Now open your GUI (for example Fritz), close Static book (by going to View --> Extra Book Pane ---> Close your Book File (that means you'll close your Static book). Go to Change Main Engine, now you can see your engines. Find the name of same engine as you putted inside New Folder. Click on that engine and then click Advanced... now click Engine Parameters and now find 2 boxes, OwnBook box and Best Book Move box, mark them as True. Click ok, and that's it. Now you're using your .bin book...

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hi Ultimate_Truth
very tanx
I have Fritz 13 GUl
i  use bin book and using best move box
bin book destroy blue 2
bin book working in stockfish engine
bin book is big book
Ultimate_Truth tanx again

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@houdinirybka wrote:
hi Ultimate_Truth
very tanx
I have Fritz 13 GUl
i  use bin book and using best move box
bin book destroy blue 2
bin book working in stockfish engine
bin book is big book
Ultimate_Truth tanx again


I'm very glad it helped you  biggrin 

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There is also another alternative way to use bin books in a FRITZ environment.

1. Download RpC-Needle
2. Place the bin file in same folder as your engine
3. Open the engine's runtime window
4. Physically drop the book file into the engines runtime command [keep window open]
5. Open engine Parameters
6. Place same name of bin file (example: RpC-Needle.bin)
into the engines directory slot exactly as it is written
7. Enable [OwnBook] option
8. Enable [Best book move] option
9. Disable [Use Book] in the Fritz GUI.

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VocalTechnique wrote:
There is also another alternative way to use bin books in a FRITZ environment.

1. Download RpC-Needle
2. Place the bin file in same folder as your engine
3. Open the engine's runtime window
4. Physically drop the book file into the engines runtime command [keep window open]
5. Open engine Parameters
6. Place same name of bin file (example: RpC-Needle.bin)
into the engines directory slot exactly as it is written
7. Enable [OwnBook] option
8. Enable [Best book move] option
9. Disable [Use Book] in the Fritz GUI.


excelent VocalTechnique

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