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bin books vs. ctg books

pollWhich books are better?

ctg books
43
48%
bin books
46
52%
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I am with DoomD4b by  Nikisharma..   :-)
But its strange to see that a bin book came out on top after 228 games...if I am not wrong, ctg books are big and stronger than the bin books..Am I right friends?   Correct me if I am wrong.  Lets wait and see the standings afterwards.

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@souvik4664 wrote:
I am with DoomD4b by  Nikisharma..   :-)

if I am not wrong, ctg books are big and stronger than the bin books..Am I right friends?


Another opinion: https://www.chess2u.com/t7678p195-bookswar-news#56565  lol 

@nikisharma wrote:
bin books are always strong , what do you say people?

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@souvik4664 wrote:
I am with DoomD4b by  Nikisharma..   :-)
But its strange to see that a bin book came out on top after 228 games...if I am not wrong, ctg books are big and stronger than the bin books..Am I right friends?   Correct me if I am wrong.  Lets wait and see the standings afterwards.

More size = the stronger? smile 

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Yes Size & Quality of the book do matter..!!
With More Size comes More Lines & with more lines comes more quality...and more quality gives more strength..!! :-)
@RpC : What's your opinion? o.O

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I am not surprised by the position of Rpc bin book cuz in Sedat it reached great position as well vs very strong books.

bin books vs. ctg books Scct11

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Any download link for Dolphin.ctg???

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hello.wich GUL suported bin books???

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@Waldemar wrote:
in Sedat it reached great position as well vs very strong books.

just 132 games? rolleyes anything can happen with so few games, and the error bar is so huge.

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I am quite disappointed after seeing all the developments in last few days .just want to ask the organisers one question i am following the results for last few tournaments....... is it fair to compare .bin files with .ctg ???

Being a developer of .cTG books, i am not finding any point to present new .ctg work for any of such tournament where results are always for .bin books. whereas we cant even use any .bin book for daily use.

may be my knowledge is very limited in terms of .bin books but one thing is for sure i cant use them with fritz or rybka GUI.
SCID Gui is damn slow for online games. at-least i never prefer them.


All above points are my personal views, i am not intent to contempt any forum rules or any individuals feelings


Best wishes
Terminator-I

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@Terminator-I wrote:
I am quite disappointed after seeing all the developments in last few days .just want to ask the organisers one question i am following the results for last few tournaments....... is it fair to compare .bin files with .ctg ???

Being a developer of .cTG books, i am not finding any point to present new .ctg work for any of such tournament where results are always for .bin books. whereas we cant even use any .bin book for daily use.

may be my  knowledge is very limited in terms of .bin books but one thing is for sure i cant use them with fritz or rybka GUI.
SCID Gui is damn slow for online games. at-least i never prefer them.


All above points are my personal views,  i am not intent to contempt any forum rules or any individuals feelings


Best wishes
Terminator-I  

keep it up i m with you thumb up

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@souvik4664 wrote:
I am with DoomD4b by  Nikisharma..   :-)

if I am not wrong, ctg books are big and stronger than the bin books..Am I right friends?

@nikisharma wrote:
bin books are always strong , what do you say people?


There are different opinions on this subject, which can be confusing. Should we open a poll? thumb up

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Yeah Nicolas, that's a good idea..!!

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@Terminator-I wrote:
I am quite disappointed after seeing all the developments in last few days .just want to ask the organisers one question i am following the results for last few tournaments....... is it fair to compare .bin files with .ctg ???

Being a developer of .cTG books, i am not finding any point to present new .ctg work for any of such tournament where results are always for .bin books. whereas we cant even use any .bin book for daily use.

may be my  knowledge is very limited in terms of .bin books but one thing is for sure i cant use them with fritz or rybka GUI.
SCID Gui is damn slow for online games. at-least i never prefer them.


All above points are my personal views,  i am not intent to contempt any forum rules or any individuals feelings


Best wishes
Terminator-I  
What is the problem? Polyglot books work perfectly in every shell. The main thing that such a book could use the engine.

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@Nicolas: So here we go. cool bigsmile Now we have a poll in this topic. Enjoy voting. thumb up

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The results are close now with ctg books leading by a margin..!!

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@souvik4664 wrote:
The results are close now with ctg books leading by a margin..!!

bin books

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@Terminator-I wrote:
...... whereas we cant even use any .bin book for daily use.
may be my  knowledge is very limited in terms of .bin books but one thing is for sure i cant use them with fritz or rybka GUI.
SCID Gui is damn slow for online games. at-least i never prefer them.  


You can use a bin book in fritz GUI..  You can find the steps easily here.. thumb up thumb up
Following steps shared earlier by Nathanael Russell. smile
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1. Download a bin book.
2. Place the bin file in same folder as your engine
3. Open the engine's runtime window
4. Physically drop the book file into the engines runtime command [keep window open]
5. Open engine Parameters
6. Place same name of bin file (example: RpC-Needle.bin)
into the engines directory slot exactly as it is written
7. Enable [OwnBook] option
8. Enable [Best book move] option
9. Disable [Use Book] in the Fritz GUI.[/Hide]

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I have Deep Fritz 14 x64 but I can't find 'Ownbook' or 'Best Book Move' options in Engine Parameters.It seems strange,does anyone know how we can use bin books in Deep Fritz 14 ?

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@OzgunCicek wrote:
I have Deep Fritz 14 x64 but I can't find  'Ownbook' or 'Best Book Move' options in Engine Parameters.It seems strange,does anyone know how we can use bin books in Deep Fritz 14 ?


You have to use an engine that supports this feature.
Disabled CTG book and copy your book.bin in the same folder as the engine and enable OwnBook, Best Book Move

bin books vs. ctg books 2j3p1l2

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@OzgunCicek wrote:
I have Deep Fritz 14 x64 but I can't find  'Ownbook' or 'Best Book Move' options in Engine Parameters.It seems strange,does anyone know how we can use bin books in Deep Fritz 14 ?

http://rghost.net/57723489

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@souvik4664 wrote:
@Nicolas: So here we go. cool bigsmile  Now we have a poll in this topic. Enjoy voting. thumb up


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ctg books [ 14 ]
bin books [ 15 ]
Total Votes : 29

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s.chess wrote:
@Terminator-I wrote:
...... whereas we cant even use any .bin book for daily use.
may be my  knowledge is very limited in terms of .bin books but one thing is for sure i cant use them with fritz or rybka GUI.
SCID Gui is damn slow for online games. at-least i never prefer them.  


You can use a bin book in fritz GUI..  You can find the steps easily here.. thumb up thumb up
Following steps shared earlier by Nathanael Russell.  smile


but how to use it with houdini 4 pro? houdini not have those settings.

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@deepfritz20 wrote:
s.chess wrote:
@Terminator-I wrote:
...... whereas we cant even use any .bin book for daily use.
may be my  knowledge is very limited in terms of .bin books but one thing is for sure i cant use them with fritz or rybka GUI.
SCID Gui is damn slow for online games. at-least i never prefer them.  


You can use a bin book in fritz GUI..  You can find the steps easily here.. thumb up thumb up
Following steps shared earlier by Nathanael Russell.  smile


but how to use it with houdini 4 pro? houdini not have those settings.


https://www.chess2u.com/t7375-polyglot-how-to-use-it

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Can anyone tell me the difference between bin book and ctg book..
Please anyone explain
and is DroidFish support ctg format

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@Ganu wrote:
Can anyone tell me the difference between bin book and ctg book..
Please anyone explain
and is DroidFish support ctg format


They are book formats which have become the most popular between all the book formats.

1. Bin = Polyglot Book, several UCI engines and derivatives are able to read this format.

2. ctg = ChessBase Book, you need a ChessBase GUI such as Fritz 17 or an Adapter to use this find of format, such as the Aquarium Adapter or Infinity Chess Gui.

I hope it clarifies your question.

Regards.

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