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Stockfish and Clones Matches

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@Nathanael Russell wrote:
@Tomfl wrote:
@drj4759 wrote:
SF Marco 150103 vs. Stockfish 15010309, Beluga 150103, Shark 150103, Orka 150103 - 500R 15S+50ms

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   # PLAYER                    :  RATING    POINTS  PLAYED    (%)
   1 Shark 150103 x64          :   26.77     291.0     500   58.2%
   2 Beluga 150103 x64         :   21.02     287.0     500   57.4%
   3 Orka 150103 x64           :   19.59     286.0     500   57.2%
   4 SF Marco 150103 x64       :  -31.24     889.5    2000   44.5%
   5 Stockfish 15010309 x64    :  -36.14     246.5     500   49.3%



I guess I am puzzled. On one hand we are told

These useless monkeyfied Stockfish clones are just experimental compilation and should not be taken seriously. They are nothing to be excited about because Stockfish originals beats them all the time.

yet Shark Orca and Beluga come out ahead of their original here and in other results

.

They are all from the same original source code... In my opinion, Marco Costalba's stockfish is all you need.


ok thanks

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Download And Enjoy Friends

mediafire.com download/qdvh6ljuue31dll/Shark+150102.zip

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Stockfish 15011322 x64 vs. Shark 150113 x64 - 1000R 15S+50ms

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   Engine                 Score              Sh          St    S-B
1: Shark 150113 x64       538.0/1000 ··········· 181-105-714  248556
2: Stockfish 15011322 x64 462.0/1000 105-181-714 ···········  248556

1000 games played / Tournament finished
Name of the tournament: Stockfish 15011322 x64 vs. Shark 150113 x64 - 1000R 15S+50ms
Site/ Country: CYBIRD-PC2, United States
Level: Blitz 0:15/0.5
Hardware: AMD Phenom(tm) IIX4 945 Processor with 6.0 GB Memory
Operating system: Linux 3.17.4-pclos1 64bit

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Stockfish 15011421 vs. Orka 150114 - 300R 15S+50ms

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   Engine                 Score            Or         St    S-B
1: Orka 150114 x64        310.0/500 ·········· 161-41-298  58900.
2: Stockfish 15011421 x64 190.0/500 41-161-298 ··········  58900.

500 games played / Tournament finished
Name of the tournament: Stockfish 15011421 x64 vs. Orka 150114 x64 - 500R 10S+50ms
Level: Blitz 0:15/0.5
Hardware: AMD A8-5600K APU with Radeon(tm) HD Graphics
Operating system: Linux 3.17.4-pclos1 64bit

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Komodo 8 x64 vs. Orka 150114 x64 - 100 Rounds, 10 Minutes + 5 Seconds

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   Engine               Score        Or      Ko    S-B
1: Orka 150114 x64 60.5/100 ······· 30-9-61  2389.7
2: Komodo 8 x64         39.5/100 9-30-61 ·······  2389.7

100 games played / Tournament finished
Name of the tournament: Komodo 8 x64 vs. Orka 150114 x64 - 100R 10M+5S
Level: Blitz 10/5
Hardware: AMD Phenom(tm) IIX4 945 Processor with 6.0 GB Memory
Operating system: Linux 3.17.4-pclos1 64bit

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Stockfish 15011421 x64 vs. Orka 150114 x64 - Rematch 100 Rounds, 10 Minutes + 5 Seconds

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   Engine                 Score        Or      St    S-B
1: Orka 150114 x64 pval   55.0/100 ······· 12-2-86  2475.0
2: Stockfish 15011421 x64 45.0/100 2-12-86 ·······  2475.0

100 games played / Tournament finished
Name of the tournament: Stockfish 15011421 x64 vs. Orka 150114 x64 - Rematch 100R, 10M+5S
Level: Blitz 10/5
Hardware: AMD Phenom(tm) IIX4 945 Processor with 6.0 GB Memory
Operating system: Linux 3.17.4-pclos1 64bit

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Stockfish 15011620 vs. SF Marco 150117, Beluga 150117, Shark 150116, Orka 150116 - 300R 15S+50ms

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   # PLAYER                    :  RATING    POINTS  PLAYED    (%)
   1 Shark 150116 x64          :   40.60     194.0     300   64.7%
   2 Beluga 150117 x64         :   40.60     194.0     300   64.7%
   3 Orka 150116 x64           :   34.24     191.5     300   63.8%
   4 SF Marco 150117 x64       :  -50.12     156.5     300   52.2%
   5 Stockfish 15011620 x64    :  -65.32     464.0    1200   38.7%

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Houdini 4 Pro x64 vs. Beluga 150117 x64 - 100 Rounds, 10 Minutes + 5 Seconds

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   Engine            Score        Be      Ho    S-B
1: Beluga 150117 x64 73.0/100 ······· 49-3-48  1971.0
2: Houdini 4 Pro x64 27.0/100 3-49-48 ·······  1971.0

100 games played / Tournament finished
Name of the tournament: Houdini 4 Pro x64 vs. Beluga 150117 x64 - 100R 10M+5S
Level: Blitz 10/5
Hardware: AMD Phenom(tm) IIX4 945 Processor with 6.0 GB Memory
Operating system: Linux 3.17.4-pclos1 64bit

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Shark 150117 vs, Houdini 4, Komodo 8, Gull 3 - 300 Rounds, 15 Seconds + 50 milliseconds

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   # PLAYER               :  RATING    POINTS  PLAYED    (%)
   1 Shark 150117 x64     :   90.95     599.0     900   66.6%
   2 Gull 3 x64           :   -8.61     108.5     300   36.2%
   3 Houdini 4 Pro x64    :  -14.97     106.0     300   35.3%
   4 Komodo 8 x64         :  -67.38      86.5     300   28.8%

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Stockfish 5 vs. Stockfish 6 RC1, Orka 150118, Shark 150118 - Gauntlet 300 Rounds, 15 Seconds + 50 milliseconds

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   # PLAYER                 :  RATING    POINTS  PLAYED    (%)
   1 Shark 150118 x64       :   77.05     214.0     300   71.3%
   2 Orka 150118 x64        :   25.78     195.0     300   65.0%
   3 Stockfish 6 RC1 x64    :  -20.13     176.5     300   58.8%
   4 Stockfish 5 x64        :  -82.70     314.5     900   34.9%

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Stockfish 6 RC1 vs. Stockfish 5,  Shark 150118, Orka 150118, Beluga 150117 - Gaunlet 1000 Rounds, 15 Seconds + 50 milliseconds

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   # PLAYER                 :  RATING    POINTS  PLAYED    (%)
   1 Shark 150118 x64       :   71.60     645.5    1000   64.5%
   2 Beluga 150117 x64      :   69.69     643.0    1000   64.3%
   3 Orka 150118 x64        :   -8.50     535.5    1000   53.5%
   4 Stockfish 6 RC1 x64    :  -33.42    1769.0    4000   44.2%
   5 Stockfish 5 x64        :  -99.38     407.0    1000   40.7%

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battle of the fishes, Blitz 4m+2s 0

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1 Stockfish 6 RC1 64 ½½½ 1.5/3 2.25
2 StockfishMZ 6 RC1 64 ½½½ 1.5/3 2.25

not sure how long I will let it run

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battle of the fishes, Blitz 4m+2s 0

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1 Stockfish 6 RC1 64 ½½½½½½½ 3.5/7 12.25
2 StockfishMZ 6 RC1 64 ½½½½½½½ 3.5/7 12.25

seems the engines are too alike to generate decisive results. if after 10 games there are no wins I will terminate

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Yep 10 games 10 draws

battle of the fishes, Blitz 4m+2s 0

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1 Stockfish 6 RC1 64 ½½½½½½½½½½ 5.0/10 25.00
2 StockfishMZ 6 RC1 64 ½½½½½½½½½½ 5.0/10 25.00

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Stockfish 6 RC1 MZ vs. Shark 150118, Orka 150118 - 300R 15S+50ms

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   # PLAYER                    :  RATING    POINTS  PLAYED    (%)
   1 Shark 150118 x64          :   35.53     186.0     300   62.0%
   2 Orka 150118 x64           :   14.73     177.5     300   59.2%
   3 Stockfish 6 RC1 MZ x64    :  -50.26     236.5     600   39.4%

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Shark 150118 vs. Houdini 4, Komodo 8, Gull 3 - Gauntlet 1000 Rounds, 15 Seconds + 50 milliseconds

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   # PLAYER               :  RATING    POINTS  PLAYED    (%)
   1 Shark 150118 x64     :   89.35    1989.0    3000   66.3%
   2 Komodo 8 x64         :    4.30     381.0    1000   38.1%
   3 Houdini 4 Pro x64    :  -41.54     321.5    1000   32.1%
   4 Gull 3 x64           :  -52.10     308.5    1000   30.9%

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Sugar 4.0 x64 vs. Shark 150118 x64 - 300 Rounds 15 Seconds +50 milliseconds

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   Engine           Score            Sh         Su    S-B
1: Shark 150118 x64 187.5/300 ·········· 120-45-135  21093.
2: Sugar 4.0 x64    112.5/300 45-120-135 ··········  21093.

300 games played / Tournament finished
Name of the tournament: Sugar 4.0 x64 vs. Shark 150118 x64 - 300R 15S+50ms
Level: Blitz 0:15/0.5
Hardware: AMD Phenom(tm) IIX4 945 Processor with 6.0 GB Memory
Operating system: Linux 3.17.4-pclos1 64bit

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@drj4759 wrote:
Stockfish 6 RC1 vs. Stockfish 5,  Shark 150118, Orka 150118, Beluga 150117 - Gaunlet 1000 Rounds, 15 Seconds + 50 milliseconds

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   # PLAYER                 :  RATING    POINTS  PLAYED    (%)
   1 Shark 150118 x64       :   71.60     645.5    1000   64.5%
   2 Beluga 150117 x64      :   69.69     643.0    1000   64.3%
   3 Orka 150118 x64        :   -8.50     535.5    1000   53.5%
   4 Stockfish 6 RC1 x64    :  -33.42    1769.0    4000   44.2%
   5 Stockfish 5 x64        :  -99.38     407.0    1000   40.7%


conclution shark is strong than his brother in rapid game. just point of my view. thank you

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Texel 1.05 x64 vs. Beluga 150118 x64 - 500R 15S+50ms

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   Engine            Score          Be       Te    S-B
1: Beluga 150117 x64 462.5/500 ········ 429-4-67  17343.
2: Texel 1.05 x64    37.5/500  4-429-67 ········  17343.

500 games played / Tournament finished
Name of the tournament: Texel 1.05 x64 vs. Beluga 150117 x64 - 500R 15S+50ms
Level: Blitz 0:15/0.5
Hardware: AMD A8-5600K APU with Radeon(tm) HD Graphics
Operating system: Linux 3.17.4-pclos1 64bit

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Shark 150125 vs. Sugar 4.1, DON 260115 - 100R 15S+50ms

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   # PLAYER              :  RATING    POINTS  PLAYED    (%)
   1 Shark 150125 x64    :  106.99     428.5     600   71.4%
   2 Sugar 4.1 x64       :  -49.92      87.0     300   29.0%
   3 DON 260115 x64      :  -57.07      84.5     300   28.2%

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Mars 3.36 vs. Stockfish 6 RC3, SF Marco 150126 - Gauntlet 300R 15S+50ms

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   # PLAYER                 :  RATING    POINTS  PLAYED    (%)
   1 Stockfish 6 RC3 x64    :   53.13     209.5     300   69.8%
   2 SF Marco 150126 x64    :   40.83     205.0     300   68.3%
   3 Mars 3.36 x64          :  -93.96     185.5     600   30.9%

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I'm guessing the clones like Beluga, Orka and Shark score well against Stockfish because they are set to excel at very fast games. I'm thinking that the parameters are tweaked for speed somehow. Whatever it is, it is done very quickly because the clones appear in less than a couple of days.

Has anyone run any long games like 40 moves in an hour or more? (If they have already, I apologize for missing that. I'm very new to the forum)

I ran a small sample today and it came out pretty much the same as what we've seen so far. These were fast games too, 2' + 2" per move. Orka 140115 +1 =14 -0 over Stockfish 301214. Haswell i7 running 8 cores.

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Stockfish 6 vs. Sugar 4.2, SF 050215 MZ - Gauntlet 200 Rounds, 1 Minute + 1 Second

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   # PLAYER              :  RATING    POINTS  PLAYED    (%)
   1 Stockfish 6 x64     :   54.84     245.0     400   61.2%
   2 SF 050215 MZ x64    :   28.50      92.5     200   46.2%
   3 Sugar 4.2 x64       :  -83.34      62.5     200   31.2%

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Shark 150203 vs. Sugar 4.2, SF 050215 MZ - Gauntlet 200 Rounds, 1 Minute + 1 Second

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   # PLAYER              :  RATING    POINTS  PLAYED    (%)
   1 Shark 150203 x64    :   62.96     296.5     464   63.9%
   2 SF 050215 MZ x64    :   29.57      90.5     200   45.2%
   3 Sugar 4.2 x64       :  -92.53      77.0     264   29.2%

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Stockfish 15020923 vs. Sugar 5 vs. Shark 150209 - 1000R 15S+50ms

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   # PLAYER                    :  RATING    POINTS  PLAYED    (%)
   1 Shark 150209 x64          :   53.74    1226.0    2000   61.3%
   2 Sugar 5.0 x64             :  -23.90     899.5    2000   45.0%
   3 Stockfish 15020923 x64    :  -29.84     874.5    2000   43.7%

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